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Subject:Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: A_leah Sat, Apr 05, 2008 IP: 66.67.6.125 I just bought this bowl today at a local antique market here in upstate, NY for about 45 dollars. The diameter is approximately 12cm and 7.5 cm high. I can see some gold flecks in parts of the glaze. I'll be posting a second round of pictures because one side of the bowl seems to have some problems. Is this bowl authentic or just another repro? I know that these are evidently faked a lot and therefore are often avoided by collectors. Either way, I like it and it wasn't expensive, but would like to know the forum's assessment. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: Robert Mon, Apr 07, 2008 As usual, I'm probably wrong but it looks good to me! I'd certainly by it for that price! |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: A_leah Mon, Apr 07, 2008 Robert, |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: kk Tue, Apr 08, 2008 The shape is correct for sung period, the paste color and foot trim look good to me, glaze is nice and thick on the outside as I expected, but one problem: I don’t see any wear in the cavetto or on the foot rim. It is hard to be 100% certain on your photos alone. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: Robert Wed, Apr 09, 2008 Good points. However, condition is not a reliable indicator of a period piece or age in general. The other indicators you mentioned, like form, are better. There was a recent exhibition at the Freer Gallery of Art in Washington DC that had several 'Temmoku' teabowls, and most were in perfect condition - not even any scratches in the well. The same can be said for published examples from Japanese collections, like the famous 'yohen' (kiln-transformed glaze) example. Too bad this beautiful bowl is without provenance. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: Robert Thu, Apr 10, 2008 One more note: Sung period Jian teabowls often, but not always, have a metal (copper or darkened silver) band covering the rim. This is because glaze running off the rim resulted in some rim roughness. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: A_leah Wed, Apr 09, 2008 KK, |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Tue, Apr 08, 2008 It is probably a Ming Qing copy of a Song piece as shown by its greyish clay. I think I have one piece like that somewhere in the house. I bought that as a specimen in 1982. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: Robert Thu, Apr 10, 2008 Colors obtained with a digital camera then put over the internet are difficult to get right. Even so, the clay looks purplish (as it should for Jian bowl) not grey. |
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Subject:Re: Hare's Fur / Temmoku Bowl ?
Posted By: kk Thu, Apr 10, 2008 I am not taking about chips or glaze flaking. I am taking about tiny glaze scratches from everyday usage and smooth surface on the base. If it is a burial piece, and then you can’t find any sign of wear but some signs of burial, like the Jianware“kiln wasters” in the recent year market. Please remember this just one of the indications to look for beside style, glaze, paste, form, foot trim. So far those do look ok on your photos. |
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