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Subject:Help with Chinese dish - old or a great copy
Posted By: Carl Klempner Thu, Apr 10, 2008 IP: 71.184.4.137

The dish is blue and white with 4 slightly raised white cranes between the blue mountains on the inside rim. The dish is 5 1/2 inches across. The glaze is a slightly darker blue at the outside base as if the blue settled at the foot of the dish.
I tried to see if it was perfectly symmetrical, but it was difficult to come up with a definitive answer, however I am 70% sure it is not symmetrical.

The condition is perfect giving me pause that the dish could be old and perfect. The wear marks are minimal if at all.

Thank you for the help,
Carl Klempner








Subject:Re: Help with Chinese dish - old or a great copy
Posted By: PyroManiac Thu, Apr 10, 2008

I would say this is a copy as there are different styles from different periods present on this dish. The mountains on the cavetto are Japanese in style commonly applied to large charges of the early 20th century. The center decoration is Chinese Yuan period in style. The back is simply confusing. All this leads me to believe this is a fake.

Subject:Re: Help with Chinese dish - old or a great copy
Posted By: Cal Fri, Apr 11, 2008

AS Pyro point out, not recreation of any one thing. So not 'fake' of one thing else. Just pretty recent dish.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Help with Chinese dish - old or a great copy
Posted By: Carl Klempner Fri, Apr 11, 2008

I appreciate your observations. I agree with you that the dish is a real puzzle. Given everything you said it does not appear that it was created to deceive. Apparently it is not a copy of a design that exists. Which raises the question as to why and who would create a high quality dish that does not fit any standard representation.


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