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Subject:Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: sergio coelho Wed, Nov 11, 2009 IP: 187.67.150.123

I would like to know if it's genuine or not.







Subject:Re: Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: PyroManiac Wed, Nov 11, 2009

No it is not Ming. It's not even Chinese. Some sort of European tin glazed pottery dish, maybe Delft.

Subject:Re: Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: Cal Thu, Nov 12, 2009

Doubt as old as Delft. Delft clays very red under glaze and underglaze blue not usually this intense and pure. Could be French mid-20th century.

Or later. There seems to be a modern pottery producing tiles and other items in Delft-like designs. I do not know where.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: Michael Sat, Dec 05, 2009

I tend to agree with te gist of the messages. However, "Delft" is a generic term that covers tin glazed earthenware produced in Holland from the 17th c. It is still produced in quantity, and still commonly with Chinese designs. But both the clay base, glaze and motifs were produced in England ("English Delft"), Italy ("majollica"), and France ("fayence") and continue in production.

Please forgive my spelling - I can't find my glasses

Michael

Subject:Re: Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: Jim Lewis Thu, Nov 12, 2009

I can't answer your question, but this looks like something made for trade with the Dutch to me.

Subject:Re: Is this a Ming dynasty - Wanli period dish or is it fake ?
Posted By: CJ Thu, Nov 12, 2009

I seriously doubt its Chinese by the look. Whilst not as old as Ming Chinese it could be somewhere circa first half 19thC when the west was copying popular Chinese export wares by reproducing designs.


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