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Subject:brushpot
Posted By: alfred Wed, Feb 03, 2010 IP: 86.145.212.113

Will you kindly give me information on this Chinese brushpot please artist and period please







Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Arjan Thu, Feb 04, 2010

Hello Alfred,

Your brushpot is made in Qianjiang - style wich became popular in late 19th. century. Looking at the mark (sorry, I have no translation) and the very flat(clean) base gives me the feeling this is a rather recent (second half 20th. ct) piece.

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Feb 05, 2010

Alfred, seal script isn't my favorite thing, but if you'll provide a good close-up image of the inscription and accompanying small red seals, I'll see if I can translate the signature of the artist. In the small photo it looks fuzzily like it may be 'Wang Yeting', but I'd like a better peek at it.
Best regards,
Bill H.

Subject:A JingDeZhen brushpot painted by Wang Ye-ting?
Posted By: Bill Sat, Feb 06, 2010

Hi, Alfred

Please understand that I do not know too much about Chinese porcelain/ceramics or Chinese water-color paintings, otherwise I would immediately identify the artist of your brush pot. Please also understand that I can neither tell the age nor the authenticity of your brush pot and I simply try to translate those Chinese writings on your brush pot for you. Also, it would be nice if you would be kind enough to post BIGGER pictures showing the Chinese writing of any items you may post in the future, my bi-focal almost prevented me from helping you in translating the Chinese writing on your brush pot.

I love to solve puzzle and in this case I was very lucky because I might have found the answer for your brush pot in about 10 minutes.

On the chop (seal mark) on the bottom of your brush pot (in seal scripts):

From Left to Right, then from top to bottom

The four Chinese seal scripts are:

野亭汪平 Ye Ting Wang Ping

Wang is the Family (surname, last name) of the artist.

His birth name is Wang Ping 汪平 but his Zi 字 (second name a Chinese was called when he turned 20) was Ye Ting 野亭. Therefore he was known both as Wang Ping or Wang Ye Ting.

Example, the famous Chinese poet, Li Bai 李白, his Zai 字 was Tai Bai太白, therefore he was known as both Li Bai or Li Tai Bai.

Wang Ye Ting was a famous Chinese porcelain painter (artist). He was born in 1884 and died in 1942. He learned Chinese water color paintings (flower and bird) from both Zhang Xiao-geeng and Pan Gou. He came to Jing De Zhen 景德鎮 to learn Chinese porcelain when he was 25. He was one of the "Eight Friends of Zhu Shan" 珠山八友(Zhu Shan Ba You) who were all famous painters of Chinese porcelain. He worked as a instructor at the Jaing De Zhen Professional Porcelain/Ceramic school. He placed different chop marks on his works (paintings on porcelain) including the chop mark shown on your brush pot:

野亭汪平 Ye Ting Wang Ping

http://baike.baidu.com/view/182048.htm
http://www.jdztc.com/Article/Class11/Class46/4158_3.html
http://baike.baidu.com/view/42014.htm

On the front of your brush pot (third picture), from right to left, the four Chinese characters displayed horizontally are:

山青水秀 Shan Qing Shui Xiu (Mountain Green Water Beautiful)

which can be translated as the Green Mountain and beautiful waters (lake or river) - basically in describing how beautiful a scenery is.

Then the next four characters, from right to left, top to bottom are:

The seventh year of the Republic which would be about 1917 A.D.

The next four characters, again in the same order would be the same as that on the chop mark:

野亭汪平 Ye Ting Wang Ping

then the next two, top to bottom:

painted at

The last two characters, top to bottom:

珠山 Zhu Shan is the same as 景德鎮 Jing De Zhen which is a town in JiangXi, China and one of the most famous Chinese porcelain manufacturing centers. Therefore, Wang was known as one of the Eight Friends of Zhu Shan for his fame with paintings drawn on Jing De Zhen porcelains.

Lastly, there seems to be another chop mark below Zhu Shan but too small to tell.

Therefore the whole sentence after the Title will be:

Painted at Zhu Shan in the Year 7 of the Republic by Ye-ting Wong Ping.

There you have it. However, this brush pot can very well be a later reproduction, I simply translate what Chinese appear on it for you.

Enjoy.

Bill (different from Bill H)

P.S. Bill H was indeed correct in identify the artist as Wang Ye-ting and he knows far more about ceramics than me. He also knows more about Chinese than many people in this forum.




Subject:Re: A JingDeZhen brushpot painted by Wang Ye-ting?
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Feb 07, 2010

Hi Alfred and Bill,

Saved again by my Guru. Thanks for the information. The only thing I would add is to caution Alfred to be careful of accepting any idle offers for his brushpot until he has had it authenticated by a qualified appraiser. The 'Eight Friends of Zhushan' are quite the rage on auction circuits these days.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: A JingDeZhen brushpot painted by Wang Ye-ting?
Posted By: Arjan Sun, Feb 07, 2010

Hi all,

I'm glad we have people with very good eyes over here. I hope my feeling of, at least, a few decades later is wrong (they indeed copied this kind of ware) so you have a rather special piece. Maybe some better/ bigger photo's can help for the real experts to form an opinion.

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: ALFRED Sun, Feb 07, 2010

Many thanks to all three of you for the information supplied which is very interesting I now attach close up photos of the calligraphy





Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Alfred Mon, Feb 08, 2010

As suggested I attach a close up photo of the painting



Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Arjan Mon, Feb 08, 2010

Alfred, I hope you don't mind.....



Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Arjan Tue, Feb 09, 2010

To compare a detail of a Wang Yeting plaque.



Subject:Re: brushpot
Posted By: Alfred Wed, Feb 10, 2010

Many thanks for the photo of the plaque so I can compere


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