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Subject:Qianlong mark question... help please
Posted By: yurike Sun, Mar 07, 2010 IP: 98.231.164.144

good afternoon...

This vase with cracked ice and flower motif and elephant head handles.. it also seems to have possible had a metal band around the rim?? This vase has the kaishu mark and not the typical more common zhuanshu seal.. it is not my assertion that this is mark and period (though that would be nice) as genuine kaishu marks are not found often and from what I have read are considered only from the first 2 years of the 61 year reign before the official seal mark of the Qianlong period became standardized by an official decree.. I am hoping that someone can post in response genuine Qianlong kaishu marks for comparison.. reference and as a learning tool. Also any opinions and forum expertise is greatly appreciated.





Subject:Re: Qianlong mark question... help please
Posted By: Arjan Mon, Mar 08, 2010

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: Qianlong mark question... help please
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Mar 08, 2010

Hello Yurike,

The essential shape of your vase resembles a type that came out during the Daoguang reign, and the elephant handles probably date it a bit later to the Tongzhi or Guangxu period in my opinion.
Where your vase has a distinct line around its shoulder, many of the Daoguang period vases had a ruffled collar that separated neck from shoulder.

This version of the Qianlong mark has a quirk that I associate with the late 19th-early 20th century. The radical on the 'long' (4th) character is written with its second stroke compressed so that what should have been two waves in it are compressed into hardly one. Not close and no cigar.

FYI there's a decent gallery of period reign marks, kaishu and zhuanshu, at teadust.com.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Qianlong mark question... help please
Posted By: Arjan Tue, Mar 09, 2010

Sorry, It seems that my given link was lost.
http://www.teadust.com/edu/marks/Marks3.htm

Regards,

Arjan


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