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Subject:Japanese chargers
Posted By: wil Mon, May 22, 2017 IP: 80.57.100.3

I thougt these chargers are japanese.
There aretraces of supports.
Does anyone know anything about the origin,of these chargers ?
The size is 35 and 32,5 cm







Subject:Re: Japanese chargers
Posted By: Bill H Thu, May 25, 2017

In my opinion, your dishes are Chinese. The use of supports to prevent warpage in the kiln isn’t unique to Japanese ceramics. I suppose it may have been taught to them by Korean potters, who learned it from China, and who were captured by forces dispatched by Japan’s “Great Unifier”, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, in an abortive effort to invade China via Korea during the 1590’s. By the early 1600’s, Japan’s first porcelains were produced at Mikawachi, in the Hirado Fiefdom, a site with good kaolin deposits that were found with help from the Koreans. Enough History.

Characteristics of your dishes, including glazes, firing and painting style, all seem to point to a late Qianlong to Jiaqing (Circa 1790-1820) date of manufacture. The link embedded herein contains a comparison of three mark & period minyao (popular kiln) dishes of that era that make my point. Pay close attention to the color of the glaze, painting of the leaves, famille rose enamel tones and the spattered white-glazed bottoms of the Jiaqing dishes. The smaller Qianlong dish lacks the heavily spattered base and looks generally to have fared better in the kiln, as should be expected for the period.

Here’s a pasted link to a just-ended eBay sale of a charger, which seems to be identical to one of those you’ve pictured here and was offered by a seller also located in the Netherlands. The description calls the dish 18th century Chinese Qianlong ware intended for the Southeast Asian ‘Nonya’ or Straits Chinese market. Are you perhaps the seller or a consignor?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142326698857?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Best regards,

Bill H.




URL Title :Jiaqing Qianlong Comparisons


Subject:Re: Japanese chargers
Posted By: wil hugers Fri, May 26, 2017

Dear Bill.
Thank you very much for the information.
I found them at a flea market.
And i'm not the seller on e-bay
I searched the net for two weeks,did find no information.
But Bill a lot of porcelain made for the market in south east asia,you can find here in holland.
That has to do with our colonial past i think.
The chargers are damaged,i'll let them restore.
I keep them in my collection.
Bill thanks again very much.

Regards.

Wil Hugers


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