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Subject:Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Mon, Jun 12, 2017 IP: 113.168.224.69

I need to know what is this little vese which I had and also the script inscription says? Pls help me!
Thank you!







Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Tue, Jun 13, 2017

Some more photos







Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Mon, Jul 10, 2017

Huuu... no one wanna help me!
Let me cry for a while!

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Jul 11, 2017

Not that people here don't want to help, but your vases have unusual qualities.

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Tue, Jul 11, 2017

Thanks Bill!
You're the only person who replied my post until now
I argree that my vase is unusual one (like the others in my previous posts). In my point of view, antiques should be rare. The headache is that they are real or not.
thanks!
Regard!
Thanh Trinh

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: I. Nagy Thu, Jul 27, 2017

My reading of the seal sript inscriptions:
Vase 1, Right side
愼徳堂 Hall of Prudent Virtue
    Left side
    抽拉斎用 Chou La Library Use (2nd     character could be 梓 zi
Vase 2,Right side
當▢輕用 For the use of ...qing
         (I cannot decipher the 2nd  
          character)
Lower part should be read each frpm
bottom to up
Right 官印 Official seal
    Left 子壬 Year of Water Rat 1852
Sorry,but I can not read the 3rd vase with Manchu sript.
The Hall of Virtue (Shen De Tang) was the main residence of Dauguang Emperor,completed in 1830. Year 1852 was the time of Xianfeng Emp.
I think on the bottom there is the 慎徳堂製 mark. However, it does not vouch for anything.
I hope it was some help to you.
With regards,



    
  

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Fri, Aug 11, 2017

Thanks very much, I. Nagy!

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Sat, Aug 12, 2017

Sorry, I forgot to show it's base



Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: rat Sat, Aug 12, 2017

當年輕用

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Mon, Aug 21, 2017

Thanks Rat!
But my comput can't read your characters

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Aug 22, 2017

I can't guarantee its accuracy, but Google pulled up this translation online:

当年轻用 = Khi trẻ với

The Chinese seems to mean "Having both youthfulness and usefulness", or possibly "Youthful and worthwhile"

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: I. Nagy Tue, Aug 22, 2017

Gentlemen,
Let'sthink more practically. The vases could have been used to collect money donations.
According to the inscriptions,
One was, For the Chu La Library use.
(抽拉斎用)
Another, For the year's light (small expenses)
use.
(當年輕用)
E.g 家用 family expenses
   貼補家用 Help with family expenses.
What is your opinions,

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: rat Thu, Aug 24, 2017

Seems brand new to me, and judging from the potting of the footring, on the heavy side and rather crude. I don't know the source of the inscriptions but the Chinese typeface is contemporary. The popped air bubbles around the characters suggests resin casting perhaps. No idea whether the Manchu relates to the Chinese text.

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Fri, Aug 25, 2017

Hi Rat!
It is a nice day that I read your comment about my vase as I’m here to learn.
Commonly, cornizance an antique depends mostly on one’s ability and experience. It doesn’t matter that if one says this antique is real, the other says it’s fake.
But in my opinion, In the case of my vase, there is nothing to doubt that my vase is a Yuan purple Jun ware, base on an analysis of Koh-antique
( http://www.koh-antique.com/jun/jun.htm - Yuan Jun ware)
There are an Agate (pict 1) And Opal (Cateyes – pict 2&3) al are nice and real.
There is also nothing to do with resin or other material that like on this ware. The yellow one is a kind of metal- I’m not sure wich kind it is- but it hadn’t been distroyed by H2SO4- I’ve tried several times.
I also find out a similarly one in a personal musium in Taiwan by following web: https://www.flickr.com/photos/orionmuseum/23905333919/in/photostream/
The only question is “Why could I got it?” and the answer is: “Why not?”
How do you think?
Nice to see you again on my post.
Regards!

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: rat Tue, Aug 22, 2017

sorry, I meant this as a reply to I. Nagy, to indicate what the second character was given his post above:

Vase 2,Right side
當▢輕用 For the use of ...qing
         (I cannot decipher the 2nd  
          character)

The missing character is 年 (year)

Subject:Re: Old Chinese inscriptions
Posted By: Thanh Trinh Wed, Aug 23, 2017

Thanks everyone for help me to understand the inscriptions.
TO I Nagy: I think this vase did’nt fit for money collection, due to its mouth dia. Is quite small (approx. 2cm)
In my opinion, it should be used to contain drinks like wine or brandy etc…
Again, Thanks so much
Regard!
Thanh Trinh


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