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Subject:Hand painted Chinese vase with bats, with guangxu mark
Posted By: Ray Wed, Aug 30, 2017 IP: 2602:304:cf5f:5970:4

Hello, any opinion on this vase? Is it modern or from the guangxu era?
The blue parts of the vase including the signature at the bottom are all under the glaze. The two paintings appear to be above the glaze. The two paintings are hand painted and I don't think any kind of transfer was used.
I was able to find that the mark is a guangxu mark but I don't know if this is a modern vase or antique.
I have posted hires pics here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w96rtx27tcuugyq/AABy7F81J7unCP_KLXVuSJSda?dl=0







Subject:Re: Hand painted Chinese vase with bats, with guangxu mark
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Aug 31, 2017

This is a somewhat recent knock-off, I believe. The mark looks suspicious on several counts, such as the guang character,which looks like it has been given a crew-cut on top. The degree of departure from the traditional figural painting style of the reign period is significant as well. Also, female children were seldom so obvious on Chinese export porcelain until after the Qing Dynasty fell, a prejudice Republic porcelain-makers continued to observe for years to come. Thus, the presence in the motif apparently of a young girl in attire more suited to boys seems to peg this vase to the mid-20th century or later.

Tony Allen speaks better to these matters than I ever will, but it is my sense of the market that underglaze blue Guangxu marks have been increasing on fakes from China in the last few years.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Hand painted Chinese vase with bats, with guangxu mark
Posted By: Bokaba Fri, Sep 01, 2017

I agree this is not of the Guangxu Period. While blue underglaze marks were used from the Guangxu Period through the Republic Period (according to Gotheborg), this does not appear to be one of them.

I don't think this was made as an intentional fake, but in the style of Republic porcelain. The underglaze blue scrolling is nicely done in my opinion. The faces, large eyes, and clothing are a give away that it is at least mid-20th Century. In my opinion, this is a decent 1950s-1960s PROC vase.

Bokaba

Subject:Re: Hand painted Chinese vase with bats, with guangxu mark
Posted By: Ray Fri, Sep 01, 2017

Thanks Bill H and Bokaba for your feedback; greatly appreciated.
I paid $70 for the vase which I figured was not a bad price for a large hand painted vase even if it turned out not to be from Guangxu.


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