Subject:Re: Dish with Qianlong mark - period or late Qing/Republic?
Posted By: JLim Fri, Dec 01, 2017
I am sure others here will provide better analysis, since I don't know about this motif or the gild patterns etc, but here are my preliminary thoughts:
First, the slight opacity (cloudiness) in the green enamels makes me think this is 19th century onward. The slightly dreamy landscape with barely visible hills does exist in Qianlongs time, but to me is somewhat reminiscent of the style of landscape favoured on Tongzhi porcelain (c. 1866 onwards).
Second, the gilding seems to exhibit realistic looking wear. Anthony Allen regards wear on gilding as a good sign of authenticity that is still not normally faked; the shade of gilding looks properly old to me, not like the foreign forms of gilding that were only used from the 20th century (Allen 2015, p296).
Third, the mark on the porcelain is a Qianlong mark exhibiting the so-called "reversed S". Although this did exist in some Minyao porcelains from Qianlong's time, this is still abnormal. It is much more likely that this is diagnostic of the first quarter of the 20th century (Allen 1996, p101).
Fourth, the footrim looks 19th century or later to me. There is also no fritting at the edges.
I would conclude that this object is probably early 20th century in origin.