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Subject:Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Tina Wed, Aug 21, 2019 IP: 174.219.140.84

Can anyone here verify that these are indeed Yongle markings on this vase? If so do you think this is an early period or later period? Any direction you can give me with this would be appreciated.







Subject:Re: Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Aug 22, 2019

The four-character mark does say "Made during the Yongle Reign". However, the brass-cladding suggests this is a fairly contemporary product, possibly made in Thailand, where Bangkok has a long-established base of industries devoted to adorning Chinese and domestic ceramics with such metal protection on the rims.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Tina Jansen Thu, Aug 22, 2019

Thank you so much for your response. Does this mean the jar doesn't hold much value then.

Subject:Re: Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Mark Adams Thu, Aug 22, 2019

Hi Tina,
Sorry, your item is much later copy, circa late 20th century.
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Subject:Re: Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Tina Thu, Aug 22, 2019

So no real value to the Jar then? Or does it still hold some value as a copy? Thank you again for your help.

Subject:Re: Yongle Markings on Vase
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Aug 23, 2019

I don't think it's a copy of anything in particular, except for all the pieces painted identically and fired at the same kiln for sale around the world. The last jar of any similarity was one I bought about 30 years ago at the Thai decorating factory southeast of Bangkok on the road to Nakhon Pathom. I think I paid no more than US$5.00 for it. I imagine They're more expensive at their export destinations nowadays. I know that Amazon sells a few Thai ceramics, and Pinterest is lousy with them. Here's a pair of pictures. The mark reads "Ruo Shen Zhen Cang" (若沈珍藏), "Precious collection of the seemingly old."

Best regards,

Bill H.






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