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Subject:Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Wed, Feb 06, 2008 IP: 66.141.255.138

I am stilling having trouble with the close-ups. May be I need to wear my glasses to take these pictures. But, I can't see well when I wear glasses. The camera screen did show very sharp image, but the turn outs are always not as sharp. It is not exactly "What you see is what you get!"....(=:

1. Black Snow Mountain honey amber
2. Black Snow Mountain honey amber(the back side)





Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: springee Wed, Feb 06, 2008

Hi Isn't this substance a phenolic resin...something like bakelite? The picture i have is of a strand madeup in the style of muslim prayer beads and even though the Chinese romantically call this "snow mountain amber" i bought it (it costs very little) knowing full well that it it not natural amber.....it is a cheap but "fairly" attractive plastic .The colour has darkened over the years from a yellow/brown to orange/black through constant wearing. If u don't see these "amber beads" that often then u should come to Hong Kong,there are literally hundreds of thousands of them here! Peace S



Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: hallo Thu, Feb 07, 2008

wingchuntaiji or Randi often take inexpensive material by the face value of their names.

Sigh... the same case as his pink amber and purple jade from turkey.

There is no such thing as pink amber. The pink amber sold in Hong Kong is just colored glass to imitate pink coral beads. The purple jade from turkey isn't even considered jade by most chinese anyways. Its a cheap alternative to expensive fine quality jade.

Due to low disposable income and the general desire for flashy jade or rare gem jewelery,
Hong Kong has become capital of imitation material. These are cheaply sourced and donned with lavish names with connotation to the real deal so as to entice onlookers. Oh did I mention the price mark up? You don't have to look hard to find these. Just waltz into any Fen Sui shop and you find basket loads of them...




Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Thu, Feb 07, 2008

Hi! Mao

Once again! You demonstrate your ignorance! (=:

Do some more study! Purple jade is the correct terminology! Can you tell us what Puple jade truly is? I bet that you can find the definition from google easily. Do you have some or have you ever touched some true Turkish Purple Jades? The focus is not on the Purple Jades. At least you did not insult my ancient Chung dZi bead. If you think that the the pink bead can only be glass, then you reveal to us how shallow your knowledge base is!

With probably 30 more years ahead of you....
Randy Li (=:

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: hallo Thu, Feb 07, 2008

LOL you don't even bother to read do you?

Did I say there is no purple coloured jade? read my post again! I said purple jade "from Turkey" isn't considered true jade by Chinese. Its a cheap alternative to expensive fine quality jade. It has too much impurity to be anything worth while. Crap jade at best but it's now commercialized due to dealers like you.

I don't sell beads and I definately don't have to make up stories about healing people with beads in order to sell them. LOL

Your right Pink beads need not be glass but plastic as well. (hint notice he doesn't call it pink jade anymore)

Here's you bucket full of pink jade or pink amber or pink glass or pink plastic what ever you call'em.
http://www.amberhouse.com.hk/catalog/red_submain.php

another one that's been basterdized.





Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Fri, Feb 08, 2008

Dear Mao,

You attempt to change my words around, You clearly are here trying to discredit me! Don't worry! I am not your competitor, and I won't steal your customers away from you. I am not even a seller, but an avid collector and treasure-hunter for over 40 years.

Your comparing my antique pink amber bead to these new fakes and the pink glass bead is an insult to me. You either are confused, or you do not have the knowledge. I only have one pink amber bead, and that was my specimen. I am not here selling for anyone. I am here trying to share the joy of art by posting some my own personal items that I collected over the years.

Believe it or not, it is your choice!

Randy Li

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Fri, Feb 08, 2008

Quote:
"Crap jade at best but it's now commercialized due to dealers like you.
I don't sell beads and I definately don't have to make up stories about healing people with beads in order to sell them. LOL
Your right Pink beads need not be glass but plastic as well. (hint notice he doesn't call it pink jade anymore)"

Dear Mao,
From what you said above, it appears that you want to discredit me. You twisted my words around, and you are a troll!

I am an honorable teacher of many people, and I am not here to steal your customers. If you continue on your insults, I would retaliate with harsh words!

I received the Purple Jades(which is the correct trade name)as a gift, and it was the first time I used that material to create a necklace for myself. The necklace is one of my creative ideas. Whether you don't like it, or you don't believe it, that's you choice. But, don't you try to snipe at my integrity anymore!

Randy Li

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Fri, Feb 08, 2008

Dear Mao,

When did I say Purple Jade is true jade? I was giving the correct name of the material.

I might have stepped into your perceived territory, but I am not your competitor. I am not even a seller.

As for my applying the concept of amber beads usage from ancient Chinese medical records, and the way I promote bead wearing for health is none of your business. If you ever try to defame me again, I 'll retaliate with harsh words!

Randy Li

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Thu, Feb 07, 2008

Hi! Mao,

If it is so easy to get! Can you grab a few pink amber beads like the one I posted from the Feng Shui stores and show us? Tell us where do you get them and how much do you pay for them!

Randy Li

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Thu, Feb 07, 2008

Yes! There are hundred thousands of fake amber beads, and the fake beads are even being sold in many Five-Star hotels in China.

You admitted that you were a victim, that means you do not possess the knowledge to identify the material! True snow mountain ambers are rare, and you don't see them very often. They are called honey amber and they are from the opague part of the material, while the translucent part are usually being called amber.

Check the next column that I posted a hundred-some years old Snow Mountain bracelet that shows genuine nature fissures.

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: springee Fri, Feb 08, 2008

Hi Wingchuntaiji "You admitted that you were a victim, that means you do not possess the knowledge to identify the material! " Victim of what? When i bought the beads i knew they were plastic,i knew they were cheap (US$20),i knew they were not "snow mountain amber",i knew they were not old and i knew they did not possess any magical healing(blah blah blah) powers.I liked the beads for what they look like. If you think that the beads you are talking about are any different,apart from colour, to the ones i photographed that's up to you. Where is this "snow mountain" .......Hello Kittyland? ;) Peace S

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often # 2
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Fri, Feb 08, 2008

Dear Springee77,

I want to show you some real Snow Mountain honey amber. They don't come from China, Tibet, or Nepal. Too bad, they are too expensive, and I have very few Snow Mountain amber. I gave the best Snow Mountain bracelet that I had to my freind in 2000. He let his girl friend take it from him! )=:

Your necklace is not true Snow Mountain as you can see from the color distribution, and you said that too. The aged yellowish bracelet that show weathered fissures is of Snow Mountain material.

My Blue Snow Mountain bracelet was originally bright blue with white spots like lapis, but it turned into dark color after wearing it for a while. It is old with Arabic prayers carved on the weathered surface. I have a hundred some years old red amber bracelet that has a Buddhist symbol engraved on the beads. It is more common than the the beads with Arabic prayers.

Randy Li

Subject:Re: Some amber beads that we don't see very often
Posted By: amberbuddy Wed, Nov 25, 2015

thanks for sharing it is really different kind of Gem.


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