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Subject:Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Wed, Jan 27, 2010 IP: 118.210.101.130 I have this imperial style huanghuali side table that has been inlaid with canton enamel. According to some experts it is Huanghuali and according to others it is Hongmu because it was lacquered before but they all agree it is 19th century and unusual in design. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: kk Wed, Jan 27, 2010 I said 100% Hongmu. I have some friends calling it Huanghuali too.... |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Wed, Jan 27, 2010 Thanks KK for your opinion. I thought it is a little too light in color and the grains are too defined to be Hongmu? I thought hongmu looks more like the other piece I posted- table cabinet. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: kk Thu, Jan 28, 2010 There are many type of Hongmu. I don't think there is any argument about it. But how many specie of huanghuali they use in the old days. That is a one million dollars question. there are a few view points on this subject. If you search on huanghuali in Chinese you will find many of these discussion. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Fri, Jan 29, 2010 I thought light colored hongmu looks like these pics |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Fri, Jan 29, 2010 More pics |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: kk Tue, Feb 02, 2010 The table is not made from light colored hongmu (also called Bai Shuanji). Sorry, I don't see huanghuali here. This is definitely not a huanghuali design. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Wed, Feb 03, 2010 Thanks KK. I think you are right it could be Hongmu. At least the Christie's specialist in HK thought the same. Anyway that is a nice Ming huanghuali scholar's table chest you got there. They are quite expensive these days around 100,000 HKDs. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Roger Schwendeman Sat, Feb 06, 2010 This is definitely "Huali" though NOT "huanghuali." |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: kk Sat, Feb 06, 2010 Lee |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Roger Sun, Nov 14, 2010 I don't think it will allow me to link to the photo (we have hotlinking disabled on our site) but have a look at these wood samples here and see how this effects the conversation. Click on the high res images... |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Elaine Wed, Oct 27, 2010 Hello: I like this table. Please let me know your price if you like to sell it. Thank you! |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: john n. Wed, Nov 17, 2010 is it o.k. to use beeswax to polish an old piece? |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: john n. Wed, Nov 17, 2010 is it o.k. to use beeswax to polish an old piece? |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: LEE Wed, Nov 24, 2010 Hi John, I polish my furniture with linseed oil. Bee wax are used by some dealers but they can cause accumulation of wax if used too often. Linseed oil on a soft rag is often used by most collectors, once every 6 months or so to bring out the grain after dusting. Hi Elaine thanks for your interest , sorry the piece is not currently for sell. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Kirkwood Paterson Fri, Sep 07, 2012 oh dear oh dear, no no no no... please! |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Ph. Papadimitriou Fri, Mar 18, 2011
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Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Torben Hedvall Thu, Sep 29, 2011 Is this imperial Huanghuali |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Ph. Papadimitriou Thu, Sep 29, 2011 Hello. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Ph. Papadimitriou Thu, Sep 29, 2011 My apologies, I hadn't seen the dimensions were given. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Kirkwood Paterson Fri, Sep 07, 2012 Whether it may or may not have had lacquer on it at some stage or not hardly the point. Many pieces were lacquered in the 50's to disguise their true worth. It certainly isn't a softwood, is it. undoubtedly a high density hardwood, more just a question as to whether a rare and precious Asian species hardwood associated with a particular class of original owner, or a less expensive imported generic designated for less sophisticated market. Was it expensive to produce, or is it made for a wider audience. 19thC yes, but look at it. What an absolutely marvelous figure to this huge one piece top. Now ask yourself the question will any timber merchant in their right mind really be putting this plank on the bargain heap, especially considering there is a ready market for it all along the Coramandel coast; species is getting rarer and rarer; Europeans are buying it by the shipload; etc; etc.. |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: sj Wed, May 21, 2014 Hi,have you sold this table or you still keep it? I'm very interested in it.Can you leave me your email address so that I can contact with you? Thanks! |
Subject:Re: Huanghuali or Hongmu
Posted By: Torben Hedvall Thu, Mar 05, 2015 Which table is talking about. Is it the "Japanese table" as you'm interested in. |
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