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Subject:Re: What exactly is GENUINE jade?
Posted By: Super Mon, Mar 31, 2014
I must commend your apparent love for jade and your generosity and courage in posting your jade collection here for other collectors to see. But non-controversial, regarding jade items? I do not believe there will ever be such a thing. Even many renown jade experts held different opinions on the attribution of many jade pieces. Jade collecting is far from being a science or being objective.
You never did answer my questions though. When you used the term "genuine Chinese Nephrite Jade carving of good quality" makes it very very controversial.
What exactly is genuine?
They are genuine because they were made in China?
They are genuine because they were made of nephrite jade? So if any carvings that were not made of nephrite or jadeite are therfore not genuine?
They are genuine because you said none of them are older than 20 century: 1901-2000?
In that sense, there are many genuine Chinese nephrite jade carvings on eBay.
Good qaulity?
What are the criteria you use to judge the quality of any nephrite jade? Their MOH hardness, specific gravity, color, purity, appearance? The reason I ask that question is because if we use the Chinese defintion of jade that is a beautiful stone that contains the five virtues of a gentleman, the only material that can be considered jade will be Hetian nephrite jade. Yet there is no agreed upon standard in China or anywhere in grading Hetian jade. Some tried to use their colors, some use the % of thier tremolite, some use other properties. In short, quality is very subjective and totally depends on each collector's own personal opinion and taste.
Do you know that there were never confirmations that nephrite was ever being mined inside China?
You had recently posted three pieces in this forum, I like this piece here the best but is it quality nephrite jade material? That is still debatable. The green one is all right but the one shown at:
http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=77962
IMHO is far away from being quality nephrite jade and I am not one hundrend percent sure it was made of nephrite even it may pass the scratch test because how you are even sure any jade carvings are nephrite jades because with even S.G. and MOH hardness tests one cannot say for sure a stone is nephrite? Some Dushan jade were tested and their qaulities were like that of nephrite.
So how can we ever be able to decide what genuine jade is?
Again, no pun intended.
Super
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