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Subject:Was thi a
Posted By: Corey Thu, May 15, 2014 IP: 193.169.154.224

I was bidding on this bowl thinking it could be yongzheng period, but since I wasn't certain I didn't want to risk more money than I can afford to lose and was soon outbid.

If anyone with true knowledge would like to comment, it would be very velcome.

Link :Yongzheng mark bowl


Subject:Re: Was thi a
Posted By: adam Sat, May 17, 2014

The enamels look too much like republic enamels...They often put 18th century reign marks on....I reckon republic

Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Mon, May 19, 2014

Hi Corey, You were lucky you didn't buy it as it is modern.
Did you not check her feedback or the bids?. Bidders names are kept secret and obvious shill bidding all point to one thing; AVOID.
Cheers
Tony.

Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Corey Thu, May 22, 2014

Thank you for your comments. I would have been happy with an antique bowl with apocryphical mark, or for that sake early republique quality porcelain for a few hundred dollars, but if it is modern, then it's certainly fraudulant.



Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Corey Sun, May 25, 2014

Wonder what went wrong with the headline btw. Must have been dizzy when I posted it.

Anyway - a related bowl with Jiaqing mark and of the period can be seen at Ben Janssens website in the sold stock section. And in the description of that one is a reference to a jar with a similar kind of decoration dated to the Yongzheng period in the palace museum.

This was the reason why I found the ebay bowl particulary interesting.




Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Bill H Sun, May 25, 2014

If I might be allowed to wax metaphorical, the bowl in the Janssen archive is like delicate perfume behind a beautiful woman's ear, while the eBay copy is like her slapping the devil out of you for getting close enough to notice it in the first place.
:)
Bill H.

Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Mon, May 26, 2014

Please post the link as I don't see it on his main website.

Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Corey Tue, May 27, 2014

LINK:

URL Title :Bowl in the Janssens archive


Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Corey Thu, Jun 26, 2014

A new link to this old thread. I kind of regret I didn't go higher with the ebay bowl.

http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2013/04/08/26870311.html

Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: Corey Wed, Jul 30, 2014

And one more link for the latecomers ...

URL Title :One More Bowl


Subject:Re: Modern
Posted By: JLim Thu, Sep 04, 2014



This fake intrigues me, because it has a feature I saw on another recently posted fake - namely, that the double-ring and footmark have been transfer printed on, and then the mark has been cunningly overpainted so it looks handwritten.



http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=74666

I am also intrigued why this version has thin black lines while the original has not. I suspect this is also covering up some sort of transfer printed guide-lines - to make it easier to copy the original design without the need for the original painter's skill.

Rgds
JLim


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