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Subject:Double C Dragons or Kissing Dragons
Posted By: JDP Sun, Aug 17, 2014 IP: 184.18.58.219

What do you think?



Subject:Re: Double C Dragons or Kissing Dragons
Posted By: Ernest Wilhelm Mon, Aug 18, 2014

That is not Jade, but a softer stone.
Ernest

Subject:Re: Double C Dragons or Kissing Dragons
Posted By: JDP Tue, Aug 19, 2014

Anyone in my presence that has touched and held this beautiful artifact knows that it is very special. I'm blown away on how you can be so quick to say this is not jade, maybe it's the lighting in the photo. This artifact is much heavier than it looks, it has a beautiful deep resonant sound to the clicking, it feels cold, smooth to the touch and takes a while to warm up in your hands when you're holding it. All characteristics of real jade. I reference you to a photo from this forum that shows real Hongshan jade. The picture on the left matches my jade perfectly. This item is approximately 8 inches tall by 15 inches wide. JDP



Subject:Re: Double C Dragons or Kissing Dragons
Posted By: adam Mon, Aug 18, 2014

Modern fantasy piece in inferior hardstone

Subject:A modern Hongshan fantasy piece
Posted By: Super Mon, Aug 18, 2014

I have no idea how big your double C dragons is. But as far as I know, there is no known authentic double C dragons that could be documented from legal excavations. For that matter, none for single C dragons either, whether small or large. As a matter of fact, the six (or 5?) famous large C Dragons including the No. 1 Dragon of China were not from documented excavations but were believed to be authentic due to expert opinions.

Secondly, the material used for this double-C dragon is not one of the credible Hongshan jade material especially that was used for making authentic large C dragons was usually a dark-green Mannasa (River) nephrite jade (bai yu). The material used to "carve" this double-C dragon is very inferior and ugly, IMHO, may or may not be nephrite. No Hongshan jade artists would select such poor material for the making of any authentic HS that would take them years to complete. NONE.

The luster found on it is totally "dead" and fails to exhibit any Hongshan spirit and the carving technique displayed on its edge is just simply not up to par.

In short, this is more than likely one of those 99k (or is it 990k?) pieces of modern Hongshan fantasy pieces that were made during the Hongshan fever and are now being sold all over the market. No pun intended.

Subject:Re: A modern Hongshan fantasy piece
Posted By: JDP Tue, Aug 19, 2014

It's approximately 8 inches tall by 15 inches wide. You should see it, it's amazing and extremely beautiful, not a fantasy but a reality. JDP

Subject:Re: A modern Hongshan fantasy piece
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Tue, Aug 19, 2014

I am curious to know how you can request information on your obviously fake jade, while at the same time claiming copyright protection?

Subject:Not fantasy but reality
Posted By: JDP Wed, Aug 20, 2014

My copyright is of the photo. I simply ask, "what do you think?" I know what it is. This is your opportunity, right now, to get it right or not with your opinion.



Subject:A BAD Hongshan FAKE!!!!!
Posted By: Super Thu, Aug 21, 2014

It was truly priceless for you to post your "genuine HS" piece here as JDP after you posted it earlier as John:

"I have a small antique & collectibles store, it's true when we say, you never know what might come through the door. I've recently purchased some jade items from a local resident, who's deceased father was a collector of different artifacts for many years. After much investigation, I have come to the personal conclusion that these items are Nephrite Jade of the Hongshan Culture, from Liaoning Providence , ca3500-2000 BC, ...I would like to confirm my belief, I hope these pictures are suitable for your judgement. Any information you might be able to give me would be much appreciated. Thank you for any help you may give.
John"

and now all of a sudden you had become a Hongshan expert and challenged others,
"I simply ask, "what do you think?" I know what it is. This is your opportunity, right now, to get it right or not with your opinion."

Wow, I am duly impressed.

What is your agenda? Do you own any Hongshan jade books? Studying Hongshan jade for years? Just wonder. No offense.


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