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Subject:Identify vase
Posted By: Alan Thu, Sep 11, 2014 IP: 149.254.182.86

I have recently started to collect Asian pottery.I wounder if you could identify this large vase for me and its age.It is 12-1/2 inches high and 7-1/4 inches wide across the top.Thank you Alan







Subject:Re: Identify vase
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Sep 13, 2014

Please note that much of this is speculative.

The two underlined characters above the main mark seem to be a factory quality control marking of "Right Side, Nine" (友九), which possibly refers to a dimension and the positioning of the vase within a group on an altar or mantle.

The main mark begins at the top right and possibly reads down in the first stack as "Saishuntei" (再春亭). The second stack possibly reads down as "Shinmuroko" (新室好). I've seen the same mark on another porcelain item in this forum and on a similar vase at the link below, but have never encountered a scholarly transcription of it into English by someone who knows Japanese at a native level, which I certainly don't.

During the Meiji era there were a couple of studio marks that began with "Zoshuntei", both associated with Japanese entrepreneur Hisatomi Yojibei Masayasu, a principal exporter of period porcelains. I believe the main studio using such marks was at Mikawachi, the old Hirado kiln center, which by that time had come under domination of the Fukagawa Company. Fukagawa used Zoshuntei, among others, to paint some of its porcelain, if I recall correctly. In any event, I wonder if "Saishuntei" might have been another Hisatomi studio.

The truth is out there somewhere.

Best regards,

Bill H.

URL Title :Porcelain Mark Saishuntei


Subject:Re: Identify vase
Posted By: Emiko Mon, Sep 15, 2014

Hi to all,
Hisatomi Yojibei Masayasu 久富与次兵衛昌保 was known to use “Zoshuntei Sanpo” 蔵春亭三保 name for his export porcelain wares around 1842-1856 close to the end of the Edo period. His Zoshuntei wares were produced by several factories around Arita and Mikawachi regions. His products were also signed with the names like “Mihosuke” 三保助 and “Sakiyo gonomi Sanpo zo” 崎陽好三保造.
Possibly the mark on this vase could be another name connected to his company products.
再春亭新屋好 It can be read as Saishuntei Atarashiya-konomi(gonomi)
Best Regards,
Emiko

Subject:Re: Identify vase
Posted By: Arjan Tue, Sep 16, 2014

Hi,

Thank you both ... I never heard of this one before.

Regards,

Arjan

Subject:Re: Identify vase
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Sep 16, 2014

Emiko, you're just the answer to those prayers I was saying when posting my speculation.

Much obliged,

Bill H.


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