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Subject:Is this Qianlong Real or Fake?
Posted By: Marvin Thu, Sep 25, 2014 IP: 108.59.219.88

I picked up these two 3 foot tall vases from who I know to be a legimate person. They use to reside in James Brown's (the singer)house. Any help would be appreciated.







Subject:Re: Is this Qianlong Real or Fake?
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Sep 26, 2014

The floor vases are ornamental products of the late 20th century, probably produced at a painting factory in Macao or Hong Kong. The Qianlong mark is just part of the decoration. On the other hand, the vases more than likely were labeled as to point of origin when they left the factory, and there's no control on what claims an unscrupulous retailer might make about their age and authenticity after removing the labels.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Is this Qianlong Real or Fake?
Posted By: adam Fri, Sep 26, 2014

Fake....Well, its not actually intended to deceive anyone with a shred of knowledge of 18th century porcelain. Just an apocryphal mark to denote "in the style of" or "Respect to prior dynastys"......
This is probably younger than "Sex machine"
Get on up!!!

Subject:Re: Is this Qianlong Real or Fake?
Posted By: rat Fri, Sep 26, 2014

These were new when James Brown ? bought them, no connection to Qianlong-era porcelain other than the mark that's been stamped on the base.

Subject:Re: Is this Qianlong Real or Fake?
Posted By: Gman Sun, Sep 28, 2014

In the antique shop where I worked in the 1970s and 1980s, we began selling these reproductions around 1980. As regards the pairs of temple jars we sold, the pair above would have been the small size, and we had a larger pair which were about 5 feet tall without their bases.

I reckon we probably sold 30 or 40 pairs of each size per year, as well as a large range of fish bowls, garden stools, and various sized vases in the popular Chinese color palettes.

At first they were fun and unusual, but they were also heavy and fragile, and likely to scratch wood surfaces of furniture we displayed them on.

While the temple jars in particular were often treated with various compounds which appeared to give them some age, we certainly did not encourage anyone to believe they were anything but brand new, but now many years later...who knows?

Cheers
Gman


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