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Subject:Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Sat, Nov 08, 2014 IP: 122.111.9.203 Hi, I have recently acquired a bound book of six chinese watercolors. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: rat Sun, Nov 09, 2014 could be. the painter isn't an expert but reasonably good. compare this leaf from a similar Chen Hongshou album currently on view in the Metropolitan Museum (http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsxs09g17F1qc6wuio1_500.jpg) |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: rat Sun, Nov 09, 2014 My skepticism detector is sounding off. According to the seals, the artist is supposed to be Yang Kun, a high ranking military official who was posted in southern China at this time. Yang Kun was not known as an artist, however, and is not listed in one of the more comprehensive lists of Qing artists I have, so until I see other works by a Yang Kun working during the Kangxi era I think you either have something genuine and obscure (possible but not probable) or by a famous general not known to have painted (not likely). Am curious to know who Chen is (didn't turn anything up on him) and what the other paintings look like. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Mon, Nov 10, 2014 Thankyou Rat for your responses. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Mon, Nov 10, 2014 These two paintings have a different seal. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Mon, Nov 10, 2014 These two paintings both have the seal as in pic 3 |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Mon, Nov 10, 2014 This is the last painting and to my untrained eye looks the most amateurish. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: Ken Mon, Nov 10, 2014 In case it's of importance these are the seals from the caligraphy page. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: rat Fri, Nov 14, 2014 Thanks so much for the remaining pictures and seal images. I feel that the paintings are considerably more recent than Kangxi and that the inscription is a separate item; the two were brought together by some owner or dealer along the way. This is for two primary reasons: because the content of the inscription does not relate to the content of the paintings, and because the style of the paintings seems to me quite different from anything I know from the Kangxi period. The inscription says that the writer's friend, the painter Yang, paints things using contour lines like Song painter Li Gonglin, figures like Song painter Su Hanchen and Ming painter Zhou Zhimian, flowers and grasses like Song painter Huichong, and aquatic life like some painter whose name I don't recognize off the top of my head. Yet your paintings are all of birds, which go unmentioned by Chen. |
Subject:Re: Chinese watercolors K'ang Hsi Period ?
Posted By: rat Fri, Nov 14, 2014 Having reread what I wrote and looked for Kangxi images of birds I feel that I may sound too harsh. Some of the birds relate fairly well to other examples from around that time (the first picture you posted in particular), but I tend to be rather skeptical. I think it is safe to dismiss any connection with Yang Kun the military man though. |
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