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Subject:Microscopic pictures of Dalbergia Odorifera.
Posted By: Margarida Dias Thu, Dec 04, 2014 IP: 81.193.5.184

Hello,
I'am asking here on the forum, if anyone can help me find Microscopic pictures ( transversal secction) of Dalbergia Odorifera ( Huanghuali), in Colors and i would need it to be from a wood sample, cause i already have the transverse secction from the leaf.
Thank you in advance.

Subject:Re: Microscopic pictures of Dalbergia Odorifera.
Posted By: rat Fri, Dec 05, 2014

Google returns tons of articles for Dalbergia Odorifera microscopic. If you don't get a picture here try contacting their authors.

Subject:Re: Microscopic pictures of Dalbergia Odorifera.
Posted By: Robert Tue, Dec 09, 2014

I could find no good micrographs of D. odorifera online but I did find on Google one article that might be of interest to you. See the online article by Min YU, Hao ZHANG, Qin JIN, Shengquan LIU (Forest Products Department of Anhui Agricultural University, Hefei, China). “Wood identification of Dalbergia odorifera T. Chen based on DNA barcoding sequences”. In: Indentification of Tember Species and Origins Regional Workshop for Asia, Pacific & Oceania, 20-21 August 2013, Beijing, China

In their presentation the authors explain that there is another species of rosewood, namely, Dalbergia rimosa Roxb, with color, density and structure very similar to Dalbergia odorifera T. Chen. However, D. rimosa is much less valuable. It is very difficult for the consumer to distinguish between these two wood species in the market, even for scientists to differentiate between them using a microscope in the lab. For this reason the authors developed a new analytic method based on DNA barcoding for accurately identifying these two wood species.


Subject:Re: Microscopic pictures of Dalbergia Odorifera.
Posted By: kirk Sat, Dec 13, 2014

it is very difficult to get an unambiguous botanic report on any of the Dalbergia or Pterocarpus genera pants. KEW are the UK botanic sciences authority; and no other botanic sciences authority are recognsed by either Sothebys; Bonhams; or Christes. The problem really is the botanic sciences themselves, which really is just a list of plants, are a mess. Robert is absoutely right, in fact he has just touched on the complexity of the problem. There are many more species than just D rubiginosa roxb [that btw is not a typo] that are responsible for the ambiguity. With over 200 species in the Dalbergia genera alone, combined with the fact the botanic sciences to date are best guess estimate 80% complete, it is not possible to identify D. odorifera on the basis of a microscopic slide.

Even if it were, there are a growing number of specialists that are not satisfied with Wang Shixiang's conclusions / vs / ve Dabergia odorifera. There are innumerable cases where genuine 17thC huanghuali pieces with a provenance about the length of your average lamp post, Hansord; Eskenazi; Grace Wu Bruce; Sothebys; etc, have to the most extent failed botanic analysis of the raw material. You need to actually read Shixiang's conclusions. If you understand what plagiarism is, you will also not be satisfied with Shixiang's assertion the species Guangdong timber merchants of the Ming & Qing dynasty referred to the Huali wood was from from Hainan island.

In his own words this is 'a completely different species'


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