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Subject:Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: Aarre Sat, Jan 24, 2015 IP: 85.76.17.83

Dear frend, can you translate this porcelain factory name of me, this is one of the many Chinese dragon kiln, but what is the englis name?

Thanks and Best Regards

Aarre



Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: rat Sat, Jan 24, 2015

This is the Qianjin kiln site (active during the late Qing and Republic eras, closed in the late 1960s), part of the Yixing kiln sites in Jiangsu Province, China.

The marker reads:

National Key Cultural Preservation Site (literally "unit")

Yixing Kiln Site

Remains of the Qianjin kiln (Republic period)

PRC State Council
Proclaimed on May 25, 2006
Jiangsu People's Government

Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: Bill H Sun, Jan 25, 2015

I'll give this a try and see if I can get a passing grade. I'm presuming you've been to this kiln ruin at Yixing and might be able to share your experiences with us.


全国重点文物保护单位 - quan guo zhong dian wen wu bao hu dan wei - National Key Cultural Relics Preservation Unit

宜兴窑址 - yi xing yao zhi - Yixing Kiln Site

前进窑遗址 - qian jin yao yi zhi (民国)- Ruins of an Advanced Kiln (Republic Period)

中华人民共和国国务院 - zhong hua ren min gong he guo guo wu yuan - State Council of the People's Republic of China

二〇〇六年五月二十五日公市 - er ling ling liu nian wu yue er shi wu ri gong shi - Proclaimed Publicly on 25 May 2006

江苏省人民政府立 - jiang su sheng ren min zheng fu li - Established by the Jiangsu Provincial Peoples Government


Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: Aarre Mon, Jan 26, 2015

Wauh, friends, thank you, nice to know more about this kiln because I hunt information on where these specialties are made (Gilden meiping vase), the example of pure silver patterns, and the bead is attached to a copper ring on a graph.
Chemical analysis of the material gives the age of more than 100 years, but less than 200 years.

Once again, thank you friends of this information.



Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: Aarre Mon, Jan 26, 2015

Dear friends, Pleace one more, this bow at the bottom of four seal mark, the first two characters of the Tang Emperor Xuanzong, but the last two characters are unclear to me.
I am very glad if you can help.

Best regards, Aarre



Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: rat Tue, Jan 27, 2015

no, this (貞觀) refers to the reign period of the Taizong emperor, not Xuanzong. But it is entirely anachronistic: the Chinese did not use reign marks on objects of art during the Tang period, except in cases where it was the only way to indicate the date, say as part of an inscription. Adding reign marks to the bottom of ceramics started in the Ming period I think, 6 centuries after the Tang. This is a new/modern imitation.

Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: Aarre Wed, Jan 28, 2015

Thank you for comments rat, if I correctly understand the Chinese people read from right to left facing, here are the first two characters of me Xuanzong, but two of the following third and fourth character I'm confused, this bowl is brought out from China in 1921. It can also be a replica of the original, but I do not know yet? Here is a picture of emperor Xuanzong characters.
This is very interesting, thank you all.



Subject:Re: Chinese Dragon kiln
Posted By: rat Thu, Jan 29, 2015

Not sure if you are asking a question, but here hopefully is some clarification.

Traditionally in China, writing was in vertical columns and was read from top to bottom starting at the right. When I convert the characters on the bottom of your bowl to English (and contemporary PRC) reading order, they are from left to right: 大唐貞觀, "Great Tang Zhenguan," where "Zhenguan" is the name of the period of time during which the Taizong emperor was on the throne. This inscription has no connection to the Xuanzong emperor.

The first column of writing in the photograph you posted reads 大唐開元, "Great Tang Kaiyuan", where "Kaiyuan" refers to the first half of the Xuanzong emperor's reign.


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