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Subject:Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Thu, Feb 19, 2015 IP: 66.170.193.122
Hello! I would appreciate any help in identifying the name of the artist on this painting on silk. It appears that it was framed in glass (there is a glare from the glass in the pictures) on August 30, 1965. It is about 4' tall x 2' wide. Thank you for any information!







Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: rat Sun, Feb 22, 2015
not sure, the inscription seems to be 淳筆, the seal legend 莊X之印
Japanese picture

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Mon, Feb 23, 2015
Thank you for your reply! It is very much appreciated and I am very grateful!

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Thu, Feb 26, 2015
I was just wondering how accurate the Google translator is now? The seal legend translates to "Mark Noriyuki 莊 X." I remember sometime ago reading that the Google translator wasn't all that reliable but is it getting better? Thank you!

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: rat Fri, Feb 27, 2015
Mark Noriyuki? No, there's nothing of that sort on the seal. The last two characters of the seal (之印) simply mean "the seal of ____", and I can't make out the second character of the legend, so I'm afraid that unless someone else can, the seal will only serve to confirm one art name (starting with 莊) of whoever is going by the signature 淳筆, which itself is likely another art name. Sorry it's complicated, but it is.

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Tue, Mar 03, 2015
I agree, Rat! It is a very complicated. I've been researching several items and it is a daunting process (yet, very enjoyable!) so I very much appreciate your expertise and valuable input!

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Wed, Mar 04, 2015
I was told by a local lady that the artist's name is 淳 莊 (Chun Zhuang). I know it's a needle in a haystack, but does anyone happen to be familiar with this name?

Again, many thanks!

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: rat Thu, Mar 05, 2015
I'm afraid your friend is a bit off the mark (haha). The pronunciation you have is Chinese (Mandarin) rather than Japanese, but stylistically the picture seems quite Japanese. Also, if this was actually a person's name, the characters would be reversed, since 莊 can be a surname but 淳 is not. You might try reposting with "Japanese painting" in the subject line to see if any of the Japan experts catch it and can suggest a plausible reading.

Subject:Re: Help needed identifying signature.
Posted By: Robin Bodiford Sun, Mar 08, 2015
Thank you, Rat! That makes so much more sense! I will repost with this new information. Appreciate your help!

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