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Subject:Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Apr 13, 2015 IP: 74.178.249.10 I recently bought this foot tall pair of Chinese biscuit-painted famille verte porcelain hawk models at an estate sale and am trying to get a better fix on their date of manufacture. Despite a month of digging through auction results, only one other matching pair turned up. Those had been made into lamps and appeared to have suffered a bit in the process. However, the auction price was still over US$1000. This pair has fared better, with just a couple of losses around the bases, a few kiln flaws and some wear to the decorative enamels on the wings. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Apr 14, 2015 Forgot to mention that these hawks both have "CHINA" marks, albeit fragmentary ones that were applied to the inside of the models by stamp in impermanent ink as opposed to the mark being fired onto the piece in an iron red pigment at the kiln. This was a fairly common practice employed in the early years after 1890 to accommodate the legal export from China of articles such as these ceramics and all sorts of other antiques that antedated the American requirement for point of origin markings on imports. I've seen such marks painted, stamped and scratched onto everything from Ming Buddhas to pre-1890 Guangxu porcelains. So the marks on these models do not serve as a clue to their date of manufacture, except to indicate that it was before 1890. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: fl Mon, Apr 20, 2015 Tried unsuccessfully. Sorry. To my very untrained eye, pictures seemed similar to other animal figures listed as Shiwan. Good luck. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Apr 21, 2015 I value your comments. I agree that the figurines are quite similar to older Shiwan models. Did you have trouble with the pictures? |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Corey Wed, Apr 29, 2015 They are very nice. It always brings a good feeling to find a little treasure at an estate sale for small money. Link and pictures works fine for me. Now i wonder, would you want to post the link for those made into lamps, that sold for over $1000? |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Apr 30, 2015 Here's the link to the lamped hawks that sold for US$1200. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Chris Mon, Apr 27, 2015 my research indicates that these red single word "China" mark was between 1890 - 1920. So, Guangxu or Xuantong period. Later there started to have more words, e.g. Made in China, initially written in 3 rows, then 2 rows, then finally one row. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: fr Fri, May 22, 2015 You probably already saw these hawk figures. But, thought I would pass the link along. It came up while I was searching for something else. I am not familiar with the site. |
Subject:Re: Chinese 19th Cen Biscuit-Painted Famille Verte Hawk Models
Posted By: Bill H Sat, May 23, 2015 Thanks, I believe I came across that pair when looking at hawks in the Sotheby's archive. They're more evenly painted than mine, which are still only the second pair I've found in traditional Kangxi-style biscuit-painted famille verte colors. |
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