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Subject:Qianlong four-character reign mark
Posted By: Kenneth Baird Leth Wed, May 20, 2015 IP: 81.234.111.36 Hello, I'm in possession of a large famille rose vase with a blue Qianlong Yu zhi mark. I've been told, that the Qianlong mark is often used on copies as an homage to the period. My question is why would a copyist use the rare kai shu style mark ass opposed to the more common seal script mark. And wouldn't he get in trouble copying the Yu zhi mark rather than the ordinary nian zhi mark? I'd be most grateful for your input. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong four-character reign mark
Posted By: Bill H Fri, May 22, 2015 Around the time of the Guangxu Reign (1875-1908), the use of Guangxu and earlier reign marks on Chinese commercial kiln wares started becoming commonplace, which phenomenon has been attributed by Taiwan author Liu Liang-yu in part to the Empress Dowager Cixi's habit of handing out marked palace wares as gifts to various ministers. This practice, along with corruption in the palace contributed to the popularization of imperial patterns and marks. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong four-character reign mark
Posted By: Kenneth Baird Leth Fri, May 22, 2015 Hi Bill, thank you very much for your insightful answer. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong four-character reign mark
Posted By: Bill H Sat, May 23, 2015 Your vase is rather presentable, but the fact remains that neither Sotheby's nor Christie's seem to have ever sold a piece of porcelain with this mark. I did get returns on my queries of eBay and liveauctioneers.com archives, but some were misreadings of the 'Qianlong Nian Zhi' mark, and others were on porcelain easily identifiable as late 20th century. |
Subject:Re: Qianlong four-character reign mark
Posted By: cervantes Sat, May 23, 2015 hello, very interesting your comment, i'm not an expert in the matter as you can see, posted some days ago for first time leave the link here, cos found something really interesting, due me stressful life still couldn't find out about by any experienced person, after investigating myself, have to relate this vase to the old summer palace looting of 1860, due the really similar vase shown on photo, used by cixi, who imitates qianlong, cant see in my pictures (other side) but the scene you can see in cixis vase, it is very similar to mine, deers standing in same position, due, the looting of old summer palace, i related that the vase of cixi is a replacement?? the vase has a metal ring in bottom and top, from when in some points when mixing with porcelain is coming a small quantity of rust the blue enamel, have not a very detailed finished, it is more than a hairline, there is some enamel scales lost,i think due to a dilatation of a metal ring which is inside the porcelain in the middle of the neck, next to the mark, there is a rare black line parallel to the frame of the mark, and some more between the characters (low visible on photos) please, could you gime any of your wonderful comments? |
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