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Subject:more pics of turtle doves
Posted By: Dennis Loss Mon, Sep 28, 2015 IP: 108.235.226.212

Hello, I realized that the photo I sent was so bad you can't see the stamps. So, here are three pics of them. hope someone can help me. I love this picture and would love to know about it. thanks, dennis







Subject:Re: more pics of turtle doves
Posted By: rat Tue, Sep 29, 2015

ok, the square seal in the upper left is either the name of the company employing the painter or the gallery/retailer where the painting was sold. the oval seal is another from the same source saying that the gallery/company has authenticated and appreciated the picture. The third is an archaic bronze form dating to the Shang dynasty used as a ritual wine container, it is called a "jue".

this is a recent picture though, these aren't collector's seals but are used to enhance the decorative effect by implying association with traditional Chinese paintings. the style is called "gongbi", basically "fine brush" and is associated with Southern Song dynasty fans and album leaves (which were revived during the Ming). Doves were not a common subject traditionally though, the only pigeon/dove I can think of in this style is attributed to the last Northern Song emperor:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Momohatozu_Huizong.JPG



Subject:Re: more pics of turtle doves
Posted By: Dennis Loss Wed, Sep 30, 2015

THANKS, I appreciate all the help. We love this painting it is in our bedroom. I didn't think it was valuable but just wanted to check, thanks again. dennis


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