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Subject:Chinese Scroll Help and Translation Please
Posted By: John Sat, Feb 06, 2016 IP: 69.126.250.62,66.249

I recently purchased the pictured scroll. Can anyone help me with identifying the artist, age and or translation. There is an inscription on the scroll and also on the edge once it is rolled up (Someone also scribbled out some of the inscription). There was apparently a label on the end of the wooden box and currently a small label on the box. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

John







Subject:雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: Super Sun, Feb 07, 2016

John:

According to the calligraphy on the top picture:

雪山旅思 (title) - Thoughts of Travelers in a Snowy Mountain (saw two people in your painting, therefore travelers)
模 (imitate or copy)
白石翁 (nick name of the famous 齐白石 Qi Bai Shi
筆意 (style; technique)
then the name of the artist
耕石道人 geng shi dao ren

I could not decipher the first seal under his name, may be Mike can help; the bottom one is 耕石 (right to left), name of the artist.

May be rat, Bill H and Mike can shed more light on the artist and other seal, etc.

Please let me know if rat will help you on your other works, he is better than me in the identifying of artists and determine the quality of art works. Good luck and a Happy Year of the Monkey to you. Super

P.S.
I found some auction records of an artist with same name 耕石道人 (possible a Qing dynasty artist), however the calligraphy of his name on those paintings appeared to be different than the one on your painting.
http://wengutang.69ys.com/result/detail/17554
http://www.69ys.com/upfile/paipin/ori/2015020121480021.jpg
http://www.cang.com/trade/show-8808178-2.html
http://www.qlshoucang.com/productinfo.asp?id=589 (Japan?)

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: John Mon, Feb 08, 2016

Super,

Thank you again for your time and expertise. It is invaluable and greatly appreciated. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can store the scrolls when I rotate my collection I have displayed. I was going to keep them rolled up and wrapped in acid free paper and in a protective tube.

I also reached out to Rat and awaiting a reply. I will keep you advised of his decision.

Thank you again. Happy Chinese New Year.


John

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: rat Tue, Feb 09, 2016

Your plan sounds fine, though if the scroll fits the box well you can simply continue to use the box. Especially if you can expect humidity in your area, add one of those small dessicant sachets that you often see in packages of dried seaweed or other products that are meant to be kept dry. (The Japanese often custom built boxes for specific scrolls but these days there are a lot of old boxes floating around and your painting may have been paired with one.)

Depending on how much information you want about your artworks you might just post them here for comment. Often one person can add details that another person may not know.

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: John Wed, Feb 10, 2016

Rat,

Thank you for your suggestion about the desiccant sachets. I did not even think to use them, which I will now.

Also did you receive my reply to your personal email from a previous post under "A poem by Li Bai"? I just want to confirm it was you.

Thank you again for your time and expertise.

John

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: rat Thu, Feb 11, 2016

The most recent message I have from you is dated Monday, Feb 8, to which I replied on Feb 9. I haven't received another, and it's not in my spam folder. Please feel free to resend if you responded to that message, I don't understand why it might have gone missing.

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: rat Mon, Feb 08, 2016

This is a Japanese painting but inscribed exactly as Super has described. The style derives from late Ming painter Lan Ying despite the reference to 20th century Qi Baishi, who did not work in this style. The name 耕石道人 is a pen name; there are books that list artists by their artist/pen names but I don't have any for Japanese artists.

the first seal seems to read 壽印 "longevity seal"

Subject:Re: 雪山旅思 by 耕石道人
Posted By: Julie Yuhas Wed, Feb 24, 2016

Super.....can you translate these for me? I am dying to know what they say....

And if you know anything about the artist, Id love to know that too!

Thank you!!








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