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Subject:rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: alfred Fri, May 06, 2016 IP: 80.9.149.4

I want the opinion of community and informations about the blue zhi mark Kangxi .

I know that this mark is very rare

Can you translate this seal ?

There are several variations of the mark .
Can someone post other variations of the Mark please ?



I can't post the picture .

http://www.sothebys.com/fr/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/kangxi-porcelain-n09110/lot.3.html


https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21622/lot/363/

https://www.expertissim.com/assiette-porcelaine-decor-lait-sang-objets-lettre-chine-epoque-kangxi-12246882

Sincerly

Thank you

Subject:Re: rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: Bill H Sat, May 07, 2016

The "Zhi" (制 - "Made") mark is indicated to have been in use during the Kangxi-period in the 2013 updated reprint of "the New & Revised Handbook of Marks on Chinese Ceramics by Gerald Davison. Several versions of the "Zhi" mark are included, including the one shown in redrawn form below, which is number 2910 in the book.

The examples for which you've provided links come from world authorities in the cases of Sotheby's and Bonham's (I have no experience with the other firm). I know that the Japanese also have used this mark, and there's little doubt that there are Chinese forgeries bearing the mark out there somewhere as well, some of the older ones probably of excellent artistic quality. Do you own something bearing the mark?

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: alfred Tue, May 17, 2016

Hello Bill,

First thank you very much for taking time to answer me.

I am extremely grateful.


Yes I own an object with this mark in blue.

A famille verte dish the mark has a variation .


I can send you pictures of the plate if that

interests you email out of curiosity but it's not

something extraordinary in my opinion.


Sincerly

Alfred





Subject:Re: rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: alfred Tue, May 24, 2016


Hello Bill,

I need your opinion on a literal translation of an alternative mark .

there are two dishes sold with the mark and they translate the mark by

fait par ordre impérial = " Made by Imperial Order "

this translation it seems correct ?


In an auction sale dated Auction House Geneva. Art East and Far East. Wednesday, December 10th, 9:30

link:


http://www.hoteldesventes.ch/fr/lots/443888

Subject:Re: rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: Bill H Wed, May 25, 2016

The Davison handbook of marks indicates that "Zhi" can be an imperial mark of Kangxi wares, but the auction listing you cite causes confusion by leaving an impression that the "Zhi" mark can be translated as "Made by Imperial Order". The mark only means "Made" no matter who ordered it.

Beurdeley was credited with the translation in a 1974 publication, which I've not seen, so the auction house may be stretching it. Otherwise, I note their description only says "probably Kangxi era" regarding the pair of dishes.

There is a mark that indeed does say "Made by Imperial Order". For Kangxi it is '康熙御製' (Kangxi Yu Zhi), which would be translated "Made by Imperial Order, Kangxi Reign". There are two polychrome dishes with this mark in the National Palace Museum, Taipei, one mark surrounded by a square field and the other within double circles, all in red and written over the glaze I believe.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: rare mark Kangxi zhi
Posted By: Alfred Thu, May 26, 2016

Bill ,

thank you for your response and your informations is always exciting to learn!

You are a well of knowledge !!!

I had doubts about their definitions is a bit risky.


Sincerly

Alfred


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