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Subject:kangxi replica ?
Posted By: ALFRED Tue, Jul 12, 2016 IP: 80.9.163.68

Hello,


I just share with you my latest acquisition and ask your opinion.


Here I bought a few days ago in a small auction room of an estate of an old French family rich.

This plate was sold for just a Chinese dish 19 th worthless.



It measures 29 cm in diameter


I don't pretend that it is genuine. I think however that from a family person aged positive I don't think it was purchased on ALIBABA.com


I await your opinion even if it's to tell me that it was manufactured there is 1 month.


Thank you all for your answers

Best regards


Alfred







Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: Bill H Thu, Jul 14, 2016

The potter, painter and calligrapher would all have had to work a lot harder for this dish to be called a replica of just about anything from the Kangxi period. Probably was meant to resemble "doucai" (the contending colors), but these enamels are much harsher than the period palette.

Here's a 3.5 inches-diameter Kangxi period bowl with dragon & phoenix scroll and apocryphal Chenghua six-character mark for comparison. Note the very transparent colors.

Best regards,

Bill H.







Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: Alfred Fri, Jul 15, 2016

Bill thank you for your answer.

I completely agree with your answer that the idea of the artist wanted to approach the doucai tones in the style of Ming .

My presentation and my title is pretty basic but I prefer to give a brief presentation and have direct advice than be accused of esayer to claim that it is a true imperial KANGXI.




I noticed several things

the present flat ligther of irregularities on its outline so it is not a perfect circle.


It has many faults cooking as you can see from the pictures.


Concerning the actual execution of the Mark Kangxi you see significant inconsistencies ? the blue circle may be ?

This dish has it been executed in 19 th century or after republic, modern possibly 18th ?


Thank you

Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Jul 15, 2016

I should add that this dish could have been made around the mid-20th century, circa 1930s-1960s,judging by the glazing and firing characteristics.

Bill H.

Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: Sean Mon, Jul 18, 2016

I wouldnt even put this to the republic era, at most this plate is 10 years old and that is being generous.

Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: alfred Wed, Jul 20, 2016

Could you develop your deduction Sean please ?

Execution mark ?

Quality porcelain ?

Enamel ?

Other example similar replica dish ?

Thank you

Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: snap Thu, Jul 21, 2016

Your dish is not a "replica" of anything old.

It is an attempt to use the doucai technique for the chosen motifs, but does not directly imitate anything else.

Subject:Re: kangxi replica ?
Posted By: alfred Tue, Jul 26, 2016

Thank you for all your answers and yours opinions.


A friend told me this dish is quite intriguing and the decor is inspired by " Doucai prototype " of the Ming Dynasty Wanli


He think the painter was inspired porcelain prototypes of that time.


if someone luckily this book "Enamelled Ware of the Ming Dynasty, Book I, Hong Kong 1966", in his collection and he sees a porcelain with a similar decor with dark colors I really grateful .



examples :


http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-rare-ming-style-doucai-lotus-jar-18th-5880190-details.aspx?from=salesummary&intObjectID=5880190&sid=f8d4ae73-990d-4b95-8b3d-a977bb6d23ac#top


http://www.cultural-china.com/chinaWH/html/en/Arts2178bye7252.html



Best regards


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