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  • fan This post has image ( China & Japan ) - MARIO - Aug 03, 2017 (06:50 PM)
    • Re: fan - I. Nagy - Aug 20, 2017 (06:00 AM)
      • Re: fan This post has image - MARIO - Sep 29, 2017 (04:34 AM)
      • Re: fan This post has image - mario stefano cirio - Oct 11, 2017 (06:34 PM)
      • Re: fan - rat - Oct 12, 2017 (01:08 PM)
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Subject:fan
Posted By: MARIO Thu, Aug 03, 2017 IP: 79.8.14.186

Can You help me to identify the seals and the word written on this chinese fan? I think a qing fan.
Thank You very much.







Subject:Re: fan
Posted By: I. Nagy Sun, Aug 20, 2017

The translation of the text caused me some
headache.In my interpretation it reads,
白衣宰相住山中高青邱咏
(In remembrance of) the white coated minister who
lived in the high Qing Qiu Mountains, and sang
about
(White coated means, retired,commoner,without rank)
In this text the key point is the high Qing Qiu
Mountains (高青邱、which is also the pseudonym of Gao Qi (高啓)poet,editor and finance minister from the early Ming dynasty, who for a while lived in the Qing Qiu Mountains.(Suzhou,
Jiangsu Prov.) Find ref. on Google

梅和録叺
plums and took record of straw bags.
移贈即希
In hope to give it as present (to)
畹孫老伯大人
His Excellency Wan Sun
仲家 (In)Zhong House
指疵 (While)Pointing to mistakes
喩梅曽 Yu Meiceng (Signature of Painter)
Under this name i could not find any painter neither on web nor in name dictionaries.

The right sides of the seal impressions are cut down and too small so the decipherment is rather difficult.
As of the big seal on the lower part (Collector seal or a seal related to a painter school etc.) I could not read the two last characters.
夢荂艸堂   Dream Flower Grass House
無〼〼    No 〼〼

There is not date given at all. It could be
Qing without stint.

I hope it will be some help to you.
With regards,





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Subject:Re: fan
Posted By: MARIO Fri, Sep 29, 2017

Dear Nagy Sun,
Thank You very very much for the the precious answer.
You are very very kind.
I attach other clearer images of of the seal
Thank You again
Kind regards
Mario





Subject:Re: fan
Posted By: mario stefano cirio Wed, Oct 11, 2017

Dear Nagy Sun,
I add some other images. Perhaps better images.
Thank You very much.
Kind regards
Mario







Subject:Re: fan
Posted By: rat Thu, Oct 12, 2017

Nice work. How about 吟梅曾 as a pen name for the artist? There seem to be a few people using 吟梅, but my books are packed away at the moment.

Second artist's seal seems to read 金羊; the first possibly 画昭(韶?)X印. I can see 吾 or 正 above something else in the third character but that's about my limit.

Subject:Re: fan
Posted By: mario Sun, Oct 15, 2017

Thank You very much!
Kind regards


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