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Subject:Please help with mark and poem on jar
Posted By: Endre Wed, Nov 29, 2017 IP: 2600:1700:6a40:2460:

I picked this up the other day at Salvation Army. It caught my eye and I bought it. I tried to research the marks and I know it says Jingdezhen China, but the other four characters are causing me difficulty. The closest I could get was li xing yong cha, which doesn’t make sense to me. To benefit xing(family name) forever tea. I would greatly appreciate if someone could lend a hand in helping with this. I think it is a poem on the side written in cursive or shorthand, maybe about a mountain, but I have no idea. Thank you very much in advance for any light you could shine on this.







Subject:Re: Please help with mark and poem on jar
Posted By: I.Nagy Thu, Nov 30, 2017

Readings,
中国景徳鎮  China Jingdezhen
永利 茶荘  Yongli Chazhuang (Tea Shop)

日麗風和景色美 錦涛河山更有情
Beautiful day in a nice scenery
More affectionate are the rivers and mountains of Kam To
(Kam To is the name of a constituency in Hong Kong)

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Please help with mark and poem on jar
Posted By: Endre Fri, Dec 01, 2017

Thank you so much I.Nagy, you are amazing!

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Subject:Re: Please help with mark and poem on jar
Posted By: Endre Sat, Dec 02, 2017

Sorry to post again on my own question, but I had a follow up that maybe someone can help me with. I haven’t been able to date this piece, as per usual. Since I.Nagy was able to translate the mark as Liyong tea shop, I think it would be considered a buyers mark. It appears that the buyers mark is written traditional. I was reading at pittwater online news, issue 228 and have learned that in 1953-1954 almost all of the factories were merged into larger units made of previously independent factories. From this time is when factory numbers appear. The use of alphanumeric characters and numbers also began to appear around this time. From what I have gathered, I think this tea jar is from 1940’s-1950’s. I don’t know when this China Jingdezhen mark first appeared. It looks like the Jingdezhen mark may be stamped, but the buyer mark looks painted to me. I think the jar is all hand painted. I don’t have much to compare it to at my home, but in the additional photo you can see a large transfer printed vase which looks to be stylistically the same as the tree on the little jar. When I look through my loupe at both to compare, they are very different. The large vase is from the late 1990s. It is not terribly important to get an accurate date on this, but I would like to get as close as I can, for informational purposes of both myself and others. So, if anyone has anything they can share about this China Jingdezhen mark along with a buyer mark, it would be greatly appreciated.








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