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Subject:Porcelain
Posted By: StefanM Mon, Dec 11, 2017 IP: 24.135.177.11

Once again, hello good people,

I would also like to find out more about this porcelain (I think I have a whole tea set - this is just a cup and a cup tray so you can see the artwork and signature [every piece of this tea set is signed and I am certain that every one was hand signed as it is the same however every one is a bit different as you would expect from a handwritten signature)

Thank you very much and keep up the good work,

And once again, big greeting to Nagy and Rat <3

Best regards,

StefanM







Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Dec 12, 2017

The signature on the cups reads,
織田製  Oda-sei Made by Oda
Signature of painter.A signature on the cup and saucer
is written by the same person in spite of the noticeable small differences.
I hope somebody will comment on the porcelain itself.

With regards,
I.Nagy

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Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: Martin Michels Wed, Dec 13, 2017

Kutani ware from the 1920's - 1930's.
I can't decipher the signature, perhaps I.Nagy is right and it is Oda, but written in a sloppy manner.
To compare: 2 signatures of Oda Sei from my Japanese signature database.
Regards,
Martin.



Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: StefanM Fri, Dec 15, 2017

Martin,

Thank you a lot for your input, as I mentioned to Nagy, I am posting some close-ups of the signature so it can be easier to compare.

Best regards,

StefanM







Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: StefanM Fri, Dec 15, 2017

I.Nagy,

Once again thank you a lot, I will post some additional signatures (so you can see them better) and some pictures of parts of the set (just for enjoyment).

Best regards,

Stefan M.

Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: StefanM Fri, Dec 15, 2017

Also,

Here are some additional pictures of the parts of the set. Just for enjoyment.

Best regards good people,

StefanM







Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: Martin Michels Sun, Dec 17, 2017

Stefan,

I still can't figure out what the 1st character is, in my opinion not O 織 (of Oda).
The 2nd is certainly 田 (ta or da) and the 3rd is Sei 製 (made). Someone once stated: Japanese marks are like doctor's writing: often unreadable. So we need a more experienced expert of Japanese writing.

But in case you like to search for yourself, try this site to figure out Japanese characters, although it didn't help me in this case.
http://jisho.org/#radical
A lot of success,
regards,
Martin.

Subject:Re: Porcelain
Posted By: StefanM Tue, Dec 19, 2017

Martin,

I greatly appriciate your additional input.

I like your quotation: "Japanese marks are like doctor's writing: often unreadable"...that leaves just enough room for a little mystery and a small quest of finding out the truth...and I think that is always priceless...plus I love the set :)

Also big thanks for the link, I will definitely try to find out more...and if I get lucky, I will post the results.

Best regards,

StefanM



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