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Subject:aquarelle sur bristol
Posted By: Jean-Frédéric BAETA Thu, Dec 31, 2020 IP: 2a01:cb00:8bc6:3900:

Bonjour,
Aquarelle avec un sujet de Phénix transportant un objet long
Il y a une marque ou une signature que je ne sais pas déchiffrer...
Merci pour votre secours!








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Subject:Re: aquarelle sur bristol
Posted By: I.Nagy Fri, Jan 01, 2021

It is not a signature -just the name of the decorative motif.
緄鳳 - Gunfeng - Hem phoenix (embroidered border decoration phoenix)

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: aquarelle sur bristol
Posted By: Jean-Frédéric BAETA Sat, Jan 02, 2021

May be an other meaning
The first letter seems to be 鯤 (Kun) It is no 緄
quite similar
Peng (chinois simplifié : 鹏 ; chinois traditionnel : 鵬 ; pinyin : péng ; Wade : p'eng) ou Dapeng (大鵬) est un oiseau géant, transformation d'un Kun (chinois simplifié : 鲲 ; chinois traditionnel : 鯤 ; pinyin : kūn ; Wade : k'un), poisson géant de la mythologie chinoise. Dans la mythologie comparée, des créatures géantes équivalentes sont le Rokh ou Garuda, tandis que le Kun rappelle le Léviathan1.

Subject:Re: aquarelle sur bristol
Posted By: I.Nagy Sun, Jan 03, 2021

Dear Jean-Frederic,
Sorry to say this is a cursive script. As a rule in cursive script the radical called 糸偏 mi-pian (silk radical, Kangxi radical No.120) is written clearly as you can see it on your bristol.
That is to say, 緄 is not 鯤. 緄 Gun means "Ourler ou liserer un vetement"
On the bristol around the phoenix what I can see are only border patterns or repeating units of design, which are very common in on Chinese art textiles, such as clouds and thunders, and a ribboned "ruyi"
Maybe, the more correct translation would be of
緄鳳 - Embroidered border with phoenix

I hope you will not take it amiss.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: aquarelle sur bristol
Posted By: Jean-Frédéric BAETA Sun, Jan 03, 2021

Dear Mr NAGY
I am so happy. Your translation is nice. It was difficult to read for my friend.
Thank you to be so sympathic with good reasons
Have a good day and also I wish you a happy year in good health!!!


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