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Subject:How old is this plaque?
Posted By: Anthony J Allen Wed, Nov 30, 2022 IP: 2407:7000:81a5:1400:

I bought this plaque off the internet, during the COVID-19 epidemic, on spec, without handling it, or having a translation of the inscription.
I recognised some of the characters as numerals and assumed they might refer to dates.

I hope Bill H and I. Nagi 's combined translation skills can clarify what the whole panel says, because the tentative effort I have made in New Zealand appears to suggest the last year of the Yuan dynasty (1367). The inscription evidently also refers to the burial of 200 pieces of porcelain porcelain.

36.5cm High
31 cm Wide
1.4cm Thick

I could not find any similar .
All comments welcome





Subject:Re: How old is this plaque?
Posted By: RENNIE HARDY Fri, Dec 02, 2022

Tony, I've never owned or encountered a plaque like this one, which has an ostensible Yuan date in the left-hand column of characters citing the eighth month of the lunar calendar in the 26th year of the Shundi (順帝) reign (posthumous name given the Yuan Emperor Huizong (元惠宗), the 15th Khan of the Mongol Empire.

I made some online queries and found nothing similar that had sold on outlets such as liveauctioneers.com, however I found a similarly shaped polychrome plaque 0n eBay at the following link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284630882904?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=AYJSbAdQ9kbBvzwTh2Gc3JWwV4xkbMMAnwdhWYnGUXaWn14UYNWr-BhHZyY

See picture below.

My opinion is that this is probably a late 20th century or subsequent fabrication out of China.

Hopefully I.Nagy can turn up additional implications from his translation.

Best regards,

Bill H.



Subject:Re: How old is this plaque?
Posted By: Dann D Mon, Dec 05, 2022

Hi Tony,

I am afraid that this may be a modern creation. I have found that these 'dragon plaques' in various forms often show up (usually as 'Ming' B&W) at low end auction houses. I haven't seen one like this but I have found a similar, in form & motif, example to yours on Ebay also claiming to be 'Yuan'. Doing a casual search on Christie's and Sotheby's also lead me to no such examples, especially claiming to be Yuan dynasty.

My translator gives me this as the characters (some may be wrong) however I could not pick up one line but this will give you an idea of what it says (each of these horizontal lines is one of the plaques vertical lines)



大元國至正二十六年被吉日
廣以此為據
**** can't pick up this line...
百八十餘件為待子間不時
遍走绑生收 有磋二
而無法花矢雕官故里
濁官之真憑余之女
宫内 常寧情冬江水朝廷之
好要知花共百日紅喜深居
貪當不過我代莫道眼前千日
張氏子你謹記人生諸多不測

It's a nice decorative piece and they seem to be selling at decent prices but definitely not Yuan imho.

D.

URL Title :EBAY YUAN PLAQUE



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