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Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: calin cristian Tue, Feb 27, 2018 IP: 5.14.186.55

Hello, I hope that someone can identify the seal, painter, time period and translation.
Many thanks,
CC





Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: I.Nagy Wed, Feb 28, 2018

Signature and seal read,
黄愼 - Huang Shen
Inscriptions are too dim to read.
Huang Shen (1687-1722) Qing Dynasty painter.
However, from 8 signature samples and 59 seal imprint
samples from Huang Shen in my ID dictionary I could not find these ones. - Needs special attention -

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: calin cristian Thu, Mar 01, 2018

Dear Mr. Nagy, thank you very much.
Please, what implies "special attention"? Could be a fake?
I bought all these myself from an old lady in a flea market in Xingang, around 2001.

Best regards,

C C

Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: I.Nagy Fri, Mar 02, 2018

Dear Calin,
Yes, it could be fake.
The old ladies in Chinese flea-markets know it very much what they are selling. In China you cannot buy original works from famous Qing dynasty painters. Counterfeiting pictures has always been a lucrative business in China. I hope you did not pay too much for it.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: rat Fri, Mar 02, 2018

Yes, this is a modern picture with a false inscription and seal added. Examples of Huang Shen's painting and handwriting can be seen here: https://www.google.com/search?q=huang+shen&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8mPCO-c3ZAhXsxYMKHRvYD7MQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=949

Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: calin cristian Thu, Mar 01, 2018

Dear Mr. Nagy, maybe this picture is helping better.

Best regards,

C C



Subject:3 - Painter, meaning, time?
Posted By: I.Nagy Fri, Mar 02, 2018

Title,
山村消夏圖 - Picture of Summer Village
康熙四十六年丁亥端月
46th Year of Kangxi, Year of Fire- Pig (1707) January
(Lunar Calendar)
Signature and seal reads alike,
黄愼  Huang Shen 
One more thing about the signature. The second character is written in the contemporary simplified
way "慎" which was not in use 300 years ago.
Huang Shen has written his signature in cursive script, almost illegibly according to the avalable
signatures.

With regards,
I.Nagy


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