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Subject:Artist stamp
Posted By: Julie Sun, Jun 24, 2018 IP: 184.96.191.109

I was wondering if anyone could help me identify this artist by their stamp? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!



Subject:Artist stamp
Posted By: rat Mon, Jun 25, 2018

I know whose it is, please show the rest of the picture.

Subject:Artist stamp
Posted By: Julie Jones Wed, Jun 27, 2018

Thank you in advance for the artists information.



Subject:Artist stamp
Posted By: rat Thu, Jun 28, 2018

Thanks Julie. The seal belonged to a Chinese painter named Zhao Mengjian, who lived between 1199 and the mid 1260s. The text is the name of his art studio: 彝齋. He used the seal on several works that survive today, perhaps the best known being this small bouquet of pine, bamboo, and plum blossom, where it is the bottom of the two seals just to the left of the middle part of the bouquet: http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/item/00/11/0e/25.html


A clearer image of the seal is here: https://www.9610.com/yin/tangsong/6/19.jpg

I had assumed that your picture would have been trying to be an early work but it seems that it is a quite recent screen that isn't trying to be a work of Zhao's.

Subject:Artist stamp
Posted By: Julie Fri, Jun 29, 2018

Thank you for the information. I really appreciate it!

Subject:Re: Artist stamp
Posted By: Julie Sat, Jun 30, 2018

I am curious why his stamp was used on this piece of work. Are people allowed to use other peoples stamps?

Do you have any idea of how old this piece of work might be?

Thanks!

Subject:Re: Artist stamp
Posted By: rat Mon, Jul 09, 2018

I have the same reaction and don't know why it would be used here. The screen is recently made (within the last few decades).

People do not apply the seals of others to paintings; the artist may impress one or more, and later collectors sometimes add their own, but no one would stamp someone else's seal on a picture.

Since images of this and other seals can be found online though, it's not too hard to make a copy to print onto decorative screens like yours.

My guess is that someone thought that this screen would look better with an impressive seal impression, and decided on this one either because it looks prominent or because they took the time to look up artists who might have painted similar subject matter and settled on this one because Zhao is known for painting plants (narcissus and plum blossoms in particular) and thought that this might be well-suited to the subject matter here.

It's true that partridges were painted around his time and for a hundred years or so afterward, but he isn't associated with that subject.


Subject:Re: Re: Artist stamp
Posted By: Julie Wed, Jul 11, 2018

Thank you for the helpful information!


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