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Subject:Can anyone please translate this Chinese seal?
Posted By: Sebastian B. Sat, Jan 12, 2019 IP: 166.137.242.51

Hello. Can someone please translate this Chinese seal? Very appreciative for that and any other insights anyone may have about this seal. Thanks so much!





Subject:Re: Can anyone please translate this Chinese seal?
Posted By: Mikeoz Sun, Jan 13, 2019

Very interesting, if it is genuine. Is there any carving (writing) on the side of the stone? That could help.

The seal reads Han Lin Gong Feng 翰林供奉。

HanLin refers to the most successful candidates in the Imperial examinations, from which the senior public servants in China were chosen.

GongFeng can refer to an attendant at the Imperial court.

On the other hand, this could be a fantasy seal made recently. Perhaps as an item for sale.

The carving is incredibly smooth, with no trace of the knife on any edge. This may have been carved by an absolute Master Sealist, or cut with a Laser. Only a much closer examination of the areas where stone has been removed might give more information.

Incidentally, the Tang Dynasty poet and scholar Li Bai was awarded this title in CE 742.

Subject:Re: Re: Can anyone please translate this Chinese seal?
Posted By: S. Boneta Wed, Jan 16, 2019

Thank you so very much for the insight. There is indeed some writing on the side of the seal on the right of the front face (please see picture). I have also attached some closer pictures of the carving. Again, thank you very much for your insight and expertise.







Subject:Re: Re: Re: Can anyone please translate this Chinese seal?
Posted By: mikeoz Fri, Jan 18, 2019

Thanks for trying but the side carving is too unclear to read. However, the fact that this is stone indicates that this is a modern effort, possibly a careful copy of a genuine stone. When I started carving seals about 30 years ago, I used to find pictures of seals in books and try to carve copies of them and in that way learned both about composition and the physical carving techniques.

In my research I have found that most seals prior to the Ming dynasty were metal or jade - the jade painstakingly carved by a process of abrasion. Metal seals were mostly cast, or sometimes made with strips of copper welded to the brass seal base.

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Can anyone please translate this Chinese seal?
Posted By: Sebastian B. Sat, Jan 19, 2019

Dear mikeoz,
My apologies for the bad picture. Here I've taken a better one, cropped it, and upped the contrast a little, which I hope may help. I cannot imagine that this is genuine. That said it is fun to engage with the history and pull at loose threads. One thing I will say is that the more I look at it, the more I am impressed by how the sculptor used the natural grain of the stone in the composition. It's very beautiful to me. I also love the detail that they achieved (specially all the small teeth and the tongue inside the mouth).
I've been doing a little research these last few days (you inspired me) and from what little I have seen so far seems to indicate it is stone, possibly Shoushan stone (soapstone). Reading online (and in "Chinese Seals" by Weizu Sun) indicates that Shoushou stone was "gradually used after mid-Ming" and during Qing (so mid 1500's through 1911 and into modern times). The theme seems to be guardian lions (a male (larger one) and female (smaller one)). I even found a few seals online that were quite similar. Some even had writing on the sides as well, but the script used was very different. My eyes are not the best so I may have missed it, but I haven't found one yet with a similar style of script.
I recently purchased it while travelling in South America from a antiques store owner who said he had owned it for 30 years and had bought it (and all his Chinese pieces) in London, from a Chinese gentleman who brought it out of China from Taiwan a long time ago (there were Taiwanese export seals (like very old stickers) on most of the handscrolls which I hope to post later this week). Like I said, I cannot possibly imagine that this (or any of the pieces I purchased) are genuine, but even if they are copies, it would be wonderful to know from when and of what.
Perhaps translating the side script may help in solving the mystery. Thank you so much for your thoughts and time. I hope to post my (very amateurish) research on the other seal later this week. Thanks again!




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