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Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Tue, Jun 25, 2019 IP: 2601:249:c00:e57:e17

Hello im trying to identify the attached seal and painting.? Can anyone help?





Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: rat Thu, Jun 27, 2019

Not without a clearer and larger image of the inscription and the two seals there. It's possible this is trying to pass as a Zhang Daqian painting but the photo resolution is too low to read anything

Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Thu, Jun 27, 2019

The seal is the following
Zhou Qiuyu-> 迟秋簃

Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: rat Fri, Jun 28, 2019

If you know that much, then you too know the painting is attempting to be by Zhang Daqian. So are you trying to get people to offer you money for it? The pictures you posted aren't good enough to show that it is by Zhang, and since you didn't post any better photos, I infer that you aren't confident that it's by Zhang either.

Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Fri, Jun 28, 2019

I'm not trying to get anyone to offer money for it. Not sure how you could infer that from this. I was trying to identify the artist and seal and I just recently discovered the artist and seal. The seal seems to be a rare one that was only revealed in a few of his paintings. It was also just recently authenticated. Was curious to know if anyone had a background knowledge of this seal . Just interested know the history of it.

Subject:seal and painting identifier
Posted By: rat Sat, Jun 29, 2019


https://www.google.com/search?q=%E8%BF%9F%E7%A7%8B%E7%B0%83&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS770US770&oq=%E8%BF%9F%E7%A7%8B%E7%B0%83&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61.182j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Subject:Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Sun, Jun 30, 2019

thank you for the reference this is very good information.

Subject:Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: I.Nagy Sun, Jun 30, 2019

Beside of the romantic 遲秋簃 seal, seemingly seen only by a few initiates, the leisure seal reads,
三湘夢五湖心 - Sanxiang-meng wuhu-xin - ca. Hunan dream and Donting Lake heart.
Supposed to be rare one, too. I could find only one Zhang Daqian painting with this seal on the net, but even with the best image resolution it was not possible to confirm it without doubt.

Wiith regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Mon, Jul 01, 2019

Thank you for the information, So how does one confirm true authenticity even if the experts cannot confirm it?

Subject:Re: Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: rat Mon, Jul 01, 2019

That's the correct question to ask

Subject:Re: Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Jul 02, 2019

Dear Tsuk,
No one on the world would say anything sure from screen pictures, and especially not from bad quality ones ( inscription is totally illegible - we can read only the two seals).
For authentication you have to take your picture to a good gallery in N.Y, Tokyo,
London or H.K, but it is not free of charge !
With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Re: Re: Re: seal and painting identifier
Posted By: Tsuk Thu, Jul 04, 2019

Picture of the inscription




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