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Subject:Mt. Fuji painting - translation?
Posted By: TimG Fri, Mar 27, 2020 IP: 2603:3010:14b8:0:587

Could someone provide a translation, artist name, and possible creation date?

Label on back for Cohen's of Washington DC supposedly dates to the late 19th c.

Nice size painting... about 3-4 feet long.

Thank you!







Subject:Mt. Fuji painting - translation?
Posted By: I.Nagy Sun, Mar 29, 2020

Date,
昭和丁卯仲夏 - Shōwa, Year of Fire-Rabbit (1927), Mid-Summer
Signature,
翠雨畫 - Picture of Suiu
Seal,
翠雨  - Suiu

The following four painters used this "gō" in the late Meiji, Taishō and early Shōwa periods;
Yamada, Yamaguchi, Kondō、and Iwai. From these I could find only Yamada Suiu's reference signature and seal-print - which was different.

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Mt. Fuji painting - translation?
Posted By: TimG Mon, Mar 30, 2020

Thanks!
So, a quick Google search turned up nothing, except one link.
http://www.bonsaiinformation.com/artistspage.html
There is one artist they mention,
Doi Kinkoku Born in 1901 (34th year of Meiji), and in the brief description says "Tan inscription found on one of his scrolls says Suiu."
The grammatical errors suggests the text has been translated, and perhaps incorrectly in parts.
Question - Is it posible and perhaps more likely that 'Suiu' is a pseudonym, rather than the artist's actual name?

Subject:Mt. Fuji painting - translation?
Posted By: I.Nagy Tue, Mar 31, 2020

I checked Doi Kinkoku's signature on other pictures available on the net. I have found out that he sometimes signed his works;
錦谷作於 - Painted by Kinkoku at
霧雨居 - Kirisame-kyo - Misty residence
I think somebody misread 霧雨 kirisame (on reading; mu'u) for "suiu"
On your painting both signature and seal read 翠雨
Suiu (Jade rain). The problem is that I can't find
reference signatures from the other artists.

As of the pseudonyms, Japanese professional painters are using pseudonyms or "gagō-s", artistic names instead of their original given names.These artistic or pen-names (pseudonyms) may be retained for a lifetime, or may change from time to time. They don't use their original given names except for family register related occasions, marriage,divorce, death etc.

With regards,
I.Nagy


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