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Subject:Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Thu, Apr 02, 2020 IP: 216.84.209.6
Hi, does anyone know anything about this paper. Im thinking its rice paper but cant find any paper online that looks like this with all the fibers. Thank you!







Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Mikeoz Fri, Apr 03, 2020
Looks like Japanese kozo paper, made from mulberry bark pulp.

Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Thank you Mikeoz, great info!

Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Bill H Fri, Apr 03, 2020
Looks like mulberry bark paper. Here's a link to pictures of plain sheets from a commercial source. Thailand and Taiwan have factories making it, in addition to Mainland China. In Taiwan, a factory I visited was making it by hand for use in name cards, almost all of which stock was sold to Japan.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/632340309/thick-mulberry-handmade-paper-deckle?gpla=1&gao=1&

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Thank you so much Bill that's great info!

Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Hi Bill, would you have any idea on the age of the watercolor? Any idea on the artist? Thank you!

Vince

Subject:Re: Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Afraid I can't be of help on age. My impression is that mulberry bark paper is pretty tough stuff, but the only example I have is a hand-painted (in gouache) Thai horoscope bought at an exhibition at a major hotel and shopping complex in Bangkok almost 30 years ago. The artist had antiqued it around the edges with tea, but the colors and paper elsewhere remain fresh-looking, as they should in a frame.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Sun, Apr 05, 2020
Thank you for all of your knowledge Bill! I think I will re-frame it and enjoy it. Take care!

Vince

Subject:Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: I.Nagy Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Signature,
素云　-　Su Yun
Seal,
素　　-　Su

Unidentifiable painter

With regards,
I.Nagy

Subject:Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Sat, Apr 04, 2020
Thank you very much!

Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Bill H Mon, Apr 06, 2020
Suyun (素雲) was the signature of a 'paintress of the Qing dynasty', according to one of our favorite contributors in the forum (See Link).

The difference here is that the signature uses the simplified version of Yun/云, suggesting the artist of the mulberry bark painting may also be a woman who is paying tacit homage to the Qing artist, who painted on something besides mulberry bark paper in any event.

Just a thought,

Bill H.

URL Title :Yi Suyun


Subject:Re: Help identify Artist and paper type
Posted By: Vincent Romito Mon, Apr 06, 2020
Fascinating information Bill! I will look further into this. Would you happen to have any idea on a value range if any? I know that's a lot to ask. Much appreciated Bill!

Vince

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