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Subject:Ancestors Portraits from circa 1830 - 1840
Posted By: Michael Walsh Wed, Dec 20, 2006 IP: 24.68.241.86

Hello -

I am just embarking on collecting oriental art. I have a couple of pieces that I have purchased from a colleauge and I would like a bit of expert advice.

These two items are a husband and wife. They come with a certificate of antiquity from a dealer in Japan.

Can someone help with an actual value on these and also where I would find the most information online for this type of antique?

These have been re-hung as they were originally smuggled out of China.

Thanks,

Michael







Subject:Re: Ancestors Portraits
Posted By: Judy Thu, Dec 21, 2006

Michael,

These are attractive and decorative. Since you do not know who the people are and whether the man actually had the rank depicted by hat finial and badge, they become generic examples of ancestor portraits.

The term 'smuggled' suggests that there would be some reason for some authority not to wish that the portraits leave China. It is possible that prior owners fled when the Qing Dynasty was overthrown, at a time when a near relative who had been an official might reflect adversely (politically) on the portraits' owners. Similar political problems occurred in 1949 and in the 1970s with the Cultural Revolution, when possession of such portraits would have been interpreted as demonstrating loyalty to the oppressor class.

A web search using that term will not yield much information. These do not have a high place in the range of connoisseurship of Chinese painting. They would not have been 'smuggled' due to artistic value. Older ones have a little historical interest, not as 'paintings' but in depictions of dress, textiles, accoutrements and furniture--not as associated with the subjects, but as typical of specific periods before the 19th century. Yours have decorative value. If by 'actual value' you mean price on the art / antiques market, your web search will show whether there is a market among those who crave association with the days of the very wealthy few in the days before the Republic.

Best regards,
Judy


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