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I just bought from one dealer 2 jade rings. they look old, one particulary interesting shows some kind of metalic reflects. Dealer says it is Hong Shan Jade therefore he would not down the price.
Is there somebody here who can help me see if those are real jades?

Dear Steven

In my experience, the jades turned that black are to be seen from Six Dynasties, caused by the use of heavy mercury from the dead bodies. Mercury was used instead of expensive cinnabar for maintaining the dead body for long days of Chinese funeral ceremonies. May be the burial environment have high mercury ore in the earth.

Your rings are donut-like, thick with inner and outer smooth convex adges, the craftmanship is not delicate as Hongshan made. The stones are not of Hongshan quality. It would be later period not of Hongshan, but I think it is nephrite and it is authentic.

It has pitts, red cracks from iron inclusions. And it has no trail of acid treatment as well as artificial whitening. Nice simple piece.

look ar style, stone, craftmanship, as well as evidence of age. I assumed that these 2 pieces are of the Qing Dynasty.

I may be wrong.

Have fun
Anita Mui

I am trying to post a piece for comparison!

Sorry that the picture did not come out! Here it comes again!

Hi, Steven R. or whoever you may be:

I was curious when I saw your message here with such name because I remember the person from the
http://www.pipane.com/ who had just posted two messages in the forum thanking me for posting his piece from his dealer's site without agreement. I sent you an email to apologize earlier yesterday but never received any reply from you. I also remember seeing your message representing Pipane in the Yahoo Hongshan group in which you were promoting your items and the name you used there is Riviere Stephane. I went and check the other two messages posted by somebody named "Pipane" at the forum and I indeed found the IP address from both messages identical to the one posted here (see below):


Subject:Hong Shan Jades
Posted By: Steven R. Thu, Oct 18, 2007 IP: 222.130.205.227

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detail&Id=27756
Re: Examples of Bao Jiang
Posted By: Pipane
Posted Date: Oct 18, 2007 (11:34 AM) IP: 222.130.205.227

http://www.asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detail&Id=27757
Re: The ebay jade plague
Posted By: Pipane
Posted Date: Oct 18, 2007 (11:48 AM) IP: 222.130.205.227

I am curious of the timing in your posting this message here with the pictures two "Hongshan" jade rings which were supposedly purchased from a dealer while you had recently presented yourself as both a jade dealer and a Hongshan jade expert in the Yahoo Hongshan group.

I consider both Randy and Anita my jade pals and I believe it is important for them to know who you are before they render their opinions. I believe you may have very good reasons for having two identities here and I am respectfully awaiting your reply. No disrespect intended.

Bill

Hello Bill,

Yes Bill,
that was me, Pipane from Pipane Asian art gallery, cheers!

These are two very obvious (kai men) REAL (!!!) Hong Shan Culture Jades from my personal collection.
I posted here two very good HS items see what comment may come out from it.


As may you know each Hs jade is unique, the total sum of genuine HS jade pieces is very limited, many are pure jewelry, made of high quality jade...enjoy

Yes, we developed at Pipane Asian Art Gallery some kind of "expertise" in Hong shan Jade (in Fact we have two experts to overlook HS items), remember we offfer FREE expertise on HS jade through our Website at pipane dot com. Yes, we are buying and selling antiques, connecting collectors and dealers.


I am a new comer on this forum but I wonder. Are you interested in antiques, are you a collector ? Are you looking for informations?


You told us you won't pay the price for an antique, well, then tell me how would you get some if you are not an expert?
Antiques market is just like any other market, why would it be different?


You have HS jade you bought from Ebay and other sources... We offer free expertise on HS jade, Help you know more about what you have in hands.

Best Regards
Pipane



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