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Subject:Ming collection?
Posted By: Cristina Tue, Oct 30, 2007 IP: 76.103.155.40

I am trying to find out some information on a few artifacts that my mother has in her home. She purchased these on a trip to China in the early 80's and she believes that they are either Ming or Ching dynasty, but she has no records or certificates of authenticity for them.

The small vase does have a "sticker" on it from when it was purchased that says it is "circa 1400's, blue underglaze with water dragons and plantain leaves on stem".

The pieces are as follows:

Image 1 (small vase), believed to be Ming circa 1400's, 15.2 cm tall and about 11.4 cm at its widest. Blue underglaze.

Image 2 (large bowl), believed to be "mid" or "late" Ming, 14 cm tall, 28.4 cm diameter, 1.3 cm thick at rim. Blue underglaze, it has a large flower medallion inside the bowl at the center, as well as a flower motif on the inside rim.

Image 3 (large vase), believed to be "Ching Dynasty", 30 cm tall, 17.8 cm diameter at mouth and roughly 25.4 cm diameter at widest part.

None of the pieces have any identifiable mark or seal on them. Although, I know nothing about this sort of thing so I don't know if Ming pieces were marked as such.

Just curious if anyone can identify anything about these vases and bowl. They are in very good condition.

If it seems worthwhile, I may look into have them professionally appraised. But, I'm just curious if anyone has any thoughts on them thus far...

Thank you!







Subject:Ming collection?
Posted By: Alexandra Tunstall Thu, Nov 01, 2007

Hi, I've worked in a Chinese art gallery and am currently a PhD student in Chinese art. I do not think any of your mother's pieces are Ming or Qing dynasty. Of course, one would have to see them in person to say for sure what they are, but my guess would be 20th century.

Subject:Ming collection?
Posted By: wingchuntaiji Fri, Nov 02, 2007

Sorry! The dating were all misdated. No one could obtain any Ming piece from China legally in 1980's. The 1950's ban has been in place until nowadays that does not allow anyting older than Qing Tung-Ji to leave China. The last item-the vase looks new! The high-stemmed bowl looks 1900's and the blue and white bowl may have a little age but definitely not Ming.


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