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Hi, I purchased this from a NYC seller. He said: "I am not sure of there age they are not new they have been in a NYC collection for 50 plus years so they are not like the ones sold in China which are brand new, I believe them to have age because of the surface deposits and wear to them." Is this true? If so, about how old do you think these would be. Thanks a lot for your advice. -- Marcela

From what I can see, the soft PI is probably softer than Serpentine, while this brown one looks absolutely like Serpentine. Jade does not show scratches like that.Try to get your money back.
Ernest

Dear Cordero

That bi disc is now bidding on eBay and you are the one who emailed links to all of us?

It's in neolithic style, but can not confirm age, and material. Pictures are too small.

Good luck and have fun
Anita Mui

I forgot to mention they are 4 1/8 inch in diameter. Thanks-- Marcela

Dear Marcella,

Impossible to say anything precise from the pictures you posted, could you send better pictures of one disk surface aspect please?

My general impression is not good, old BC jade Bi would show obvious evidence of great age, nice patina (luster) and marks of time. Peruse best museums catalogue or major auction houses to check how old BC jade Bi should look like:
http://www.npm.gov.tw/en/collection/selections_01.htm
http://www.christies.com for instance or http://www.sothebys.com/

From a professional point of view:
1) usually dealers know what they have in hand, so if the seller told you he is not sure how old it is it means he doesn't think it is old.

2)on every market, price is a very good indication of a good quality/value, I mean that even if low quality antique are sold at (too) high price sometime it is very unlikely that good ones would be sold at low price...

Also fakers have been making copies for centuries, if two centuries old �good quality� copies (from material and craftsmanship point of view) have some value, its value is generally far lower than the original, and lower than that period original artworks.

For instance: a Ming Dynasty copy of a Han Dynasty jade, might have some value, but far less than real Han Dynasty jade or original Ming Dynasty jade, still it is antique, if the material and the craftsmanship is good it has some value.

Therefore I would say that a few decades jade copy is generally worth the cost of the material it is made of.


Best Regards,

Pipane


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