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According to CAL all I have ever posted is mid 20th century junk. I thought this forum was about Asian Art. These are more items from the mid 20th century ("junk") called cloisonee. It simply amaizes me the amount of time it must take to make one of these. The wire and enamel into these designs to me is real Art. To have a grey water jug that is glued back together from the year 3427 BCE to me is an artifact? A friend of mine has some petrified dinasor dung and that too is an artifact. I guess the art is in the eye of the beholder.

Patrick,

You did not quote me correctly, did not mention 'junk'.

You complained,

"I notice hundreds of people looking at my posts with very few responces. The more I can learn about the arts of the Asian culture the better my choices will be while collecting."


I tried to explain why few responses:

"Nearly all you show is mass-produced items from recent 30 years, though a few may be from 1950s.

Mostly goods for department-store, gift shop, tourist.

While many items reflect past culture, the versions you have do not show much individual artistic value, and will not give you sense of historic culture. You cannot learn history on message boards."

Full exchange can be found at link.

Your photos still too small to see detail of items.

If you study cloisson� you learn that the old had individually soldered wires creating network throughout piece, individually painted-in enamel colors, then fired in controlled low-temperature kiln slow, then carefully hand-polished in several steps. New factory pieces have molded imitation wires, automated application of enamels, may not have fired-type enamels (think airplane model paint), might have hasty polish.

Further study cloisson� would give idea of aesthetic of form, design, color combination. Are some very attractive pre-1930s Japanese imitations of early Chinese cloisson�, in classic forms and colors.

You may have personal opinion that factory goods are artistic. Do not expect that people who appreciate or study fine art and antiques agree with you. Is not much to say about mass-made goods but how made, or if one might imitate particular antique or antiquity item.

This is 'volunteer' public forum, no one obligated to make comment.

Good luck,
Cal

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