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Subject:Asian seal
Posted By: Paul Fri, Mar 11, 2011 IP: 24.91.192.94

I've owned this seal for a long time. Could anyone provide info on this item?
Thanks,
Paul













Subject:Asian seal
Posted By: Paul Sat, Mar 12, 2011

don't know what happened to the pics in the original post













Subject:Asian seal
Posted By: Paul Mon, Mar 14, 2011

Pics in link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58498242@N03/sets/72157626262808986/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58498242@N03/sets/72157626137808345/

Subject:Asian seal
Posted By: rat Wed, Mar 16, 2011

Hi Paul, this looks like a nice seal, perhaps Japanese, I can't quite make out the legend from your photos. Can you post another photo of the impression made by the seal?

Subject:Re: Asian seal
Posted By: mikeoz Thu, Mar 17, 2011

I suggest that both seals are Chinese.

The first looks a very fine stone carving - a better photo would give more detail so we might identify the subject. The face appears to read Yi Yang Zhe Yin. Yi is not a family name that I can find, but is an old name for a part of Shandong province ; Yang is a family name ; Zhe generally means person ; and Yin means seal. �a���̦L (Code Big 5). Hence, possibly "Mr Yang from Shandong's seal".

The second seal looks as if it could be bronze. The face appears to read Zhi Zhe Yue Ji ���̤�X, which would probably be a Leisure seal with a meaning something like "The wise person says little". (Please forgive my clumsy translation.)

Clean impressions would make the reading easier, but can be hard to make if not experienced.

Subject:Re: Asian seal
Posted By: Paul Fri, Mar 18, 2011

Thanks to Rat and Mike. Wow, i've really learned so much on these items.
I'll try to get the impressions, and post them soon.
Thanks again!
Sincerely,
Paul

Subject:Re: Asian seal
Posted By: paul Fri, Mar 18, 2011

I separated these 2 seals up and upload more pictures from Flickr;

1st one:attempted to get the impression mark

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58498242@N03/sets/72157626262808986/

2nd one: no impression mark on paper

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58498242@N03/sets/72157626172449599/

They are both bronze.
Thanks all again for your expert opinion.
Sincerely,
Paul

Subject:Re: Re: Asian seal
Posted By: mikeoz Mon, Mar 21, 2011

I am still reasonably happy with my interpretation of the second seal (see above).

The first seal I can now see clearly and it reads (anticlockwise from top right) Zhang Yi Yang Yin. A name seal for a Mister Zhang. Nicely designed and well made.

Subject:Re: Re: Asian seal
Posted By: paul Tue, Mar 22, 2011

Thanks Mike!

Subject:Re: Re: Asian seal
Posted By: paul Tue, Mar 22, 2011

hello Mike,
could you please tell me how old they are?
Thanks,

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Asian seal
Posted By: mikeoz Thu, Mar 24, 2011

Bronze seals have been made in China for more than 2,000 years. These are not that old, but they could be anything from late Qing (19th century) to relatively modern.

They both seem to be quality, and the casting of the animal on the larger seal is spectacular. But I cannot give you any definitive information on their age.

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Asian seal
Posted By: paul Thu, Mar 24, 2011

Thanks again Mike! Greatly appreciated!


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