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Subject:Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Brian Gray Sun, Dec 25, 2011 IP: 71.58.160.27 http://jimracineauctions.com/ChiLinStatueBaliBirdsAndMore.html |
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Subject:Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: rat Sun, Dec 25, 2011 not Chinese but southeast Asian. don't waste your money, try to learn more about the type of objects you are interested in before you buy anything else. |
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Subject:Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Brian Gray Mon, Dec 26, 2011 Thanks for that reply. I assumed because of the weight of the carved figure and the cracks in this very dense wood, that it must be very old. Plus, the paint has worn in areas, which I took as requiring years to achieve. I was hoping someone could look at it and tell by the style when it was carved. Again, thanks for your input. |
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Subject:Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Cal Mon, Dec 26, 2011 "age cracks in wood"? |
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Subject:Re: Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Brian Gray Mon, Dec 26, 2011 Thanks for your reply. I was intrigued by the extreme heaviness of the piece and the cracks in the wood. I've never seen dense wood crack like this without it being a few years old. Still, it's hard to say. And the wear in the paint is something I would consider an age indicator, because that is hard to fake. The Ch'i Lin is gold, but there are spots where the paint around the feet has been rubbed enough to reveal the undercoatings of red and silver. |
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Subject:Re: Re: Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Cal Wed, Dec 28, 2011 Ask auctioneer what is missing that was attached to loop on top of back. |
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Subject:Re: Re: Re: Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Brian Gray Wed, Dec 28, 2011 Thanks for all of the input. I have looked this item over very closely, in person and from every angle. I have been dealing with antiques for decades, and I am convinced that this piece is genuinely old. There's nothing fake about the wear patterns. The patina did not come from sandpaper, filing or heating. Also, as per the other suggestion from another person here, it did not come from Bali. The Garuda birds that are being sold on the same day came from an entirely different source, and they are from Bali. The Ch'i Lin came from a totally different owner, so these objects have nothing in common other than the auction house that is going to sell them this Sunday. The Ch'i Lin came from Asia, not a merry-go-round. My guess as to the reason for the wooden loop on the top of the Ch'i Lin is for when red ribbons would have been threaded through it during festivals. Just an educated guess, since I have seen this practice commonly while traveling in China. |
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Subject:Re: Trying to determine what dynasty?
Posted By: Bill H Tue, Dec 27, 2011 This auction house doesn't seem to know beans about Qilin 'metaphysiology'. Their carving might well have come out of Bali with those garudas shown on the website, either that or somebody found it amongst the wooden horses on an old merry-go-round. |
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