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Subject:Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Sat, Feb 11, 2012 IP: 90.206.25.10

Hi, i have come across this stunning chinese vase but i am so far unable to read the marks and wondered if anyone could possibly help me please? Any info would be gratefully recieved as i believe it is an old vase. Sadly the top has took a knock and has an age old repair to it
Thanks again for any help and please let me know if you are unable to see the pics via the link as i might of put the wrong link.

Subject:Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Wed, Feb 15, 2012

Hi here is the link to the photos

http://s1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/theborncollector
I hope this helps

Subject:Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: rat Thu, Feb 16, 2012

not much help I realize but yours is a Japanese vase, not Chinese.

Subject:Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Fri, Feb 17, 2012

Hi, thanks for the reply, i thought it might be chinese as the second character mark is a Nian Zhi mark. Are you sure its japanese?

URL Title :base mark


Subject:Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: rat Sat, Feb 18, 2012

yes, definitely japanese. the mark is X (not sure off top of head), then the character for "6", and then "sei" (japanese for "zhi"), which means "made", so the first two characters are likely the maker's name. I am pretty ignorant about Japanese stuff though.

Subject:Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Bill H Sat, Feb 18, 2012

Hi Dave & Rat,


the characters look to me like �P��, which are pronounced "yu" and "liu" in Chinese. The latter is "six", while the former has various meanings, including "sedan chair", "chariot", "to contain", "the earth" and "the people", among others.

The two characters appear to form some Japanese names, but I defer to our Japanese speakers to find plausible transcriptions.

Best regards,

Bill H.

Subject:Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Sun, Feb 19, 2012

Thanks again for your response and information.Maybe another person could fill in the blanks as i really would like to know what the base mark and artist signature say. In particular i would like to know the age of the vase. It is quite a large size too at 30 cm (12") high.
Thanks again Rat

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Guy Mon, Feb 20, 2012

read the signature on the base as 'Yoroku sei'.

Guy

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Fri, Feb 24, 2012

Hello Guy, i thought the bottom mark was a nian zhi mark?...How old do you think the vase might be? and do you know of a good internet source were i might be able to find the artist mark?
Kind regards
Dave

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Guy Tue, Feb 28, 2012

Can't help you much further. I tried to read the decorator's signature but failed.
In any case, it is Japanese.

Guy.

Subject:Re: Re: Re: Can you decipher the marks?
Posted By: Dave Mon, Feb 20, 2012

Thanks Bill H & Rat, it would be great if a japanese/chinese member could read them. I feel like i am getting somewhere even with the info you two have provided so far,thanks
How old do you think the vase might be? it does ooze quality and i was thinking the decoration might be that of Arita porcelain??


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