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Subject:identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: David Sun, May 13, 2012 IP: 99.255.148.231

Hello All! Can anyone identify/date this Asian silk screen picture? Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! David.





Subject:Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: Cal Mon, May 14, 2012

"Silk screen" is a method of printing.

Do you mean painted on silk?

Look like generic scene of scholar and attendant.

Flying geese sometime symbolize meaning 'do well on civil examinations.' The two geese here might refer to that theme.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: David Tue, May 15, 2012

Hello Cal, Thank you for replying to my posts on the Asian Art Forums, and for the info. I have a few added notes: I erred with the wording on the Asian silk "screen" (scholar) picture; the word screen was not supposed to be in the post; the picture is actually sewn silk; the Japanese lady on the hot plate, and the doily, are also silk (I know, it is difficult to see these things in photos). Too, Would you have a link that I could check out for the translucent porcelain Pagoda China cup and saucer; they are of very high quality (too,would you happen to know what the significance or meaning of the symbols on the bottoms are?), I couldn't find the mark or the pattern of this set anywhere! Also, Did you see my post for the Imari plate; I would very much like to have the pattern identified and the plate dated. Thank you again for all Cal. David.

Subject:Re: Re: identify Asian picture
Posted By: Cal Wed, May 16, 2012

Design on this picture, then, could be woven or embroidered. You can see which by looking at back of textile: if horizontal threads go all the way across, but up and down through fabric, it is woven. If threads go many directions and have knots, it is embroidered.

While it has a Chinese theme, it may be from elsewhere; the persons look drawn by possibly a Westerner.

The cup and saucer: many many millions of excellent-quality porcelain pieces have been made in Japan and exported to West. Many of these were hand-painted in factories where the decorators were paid next to nothing. The glaze quality on yours is not very excellent. While there are persons who 'collect' cup-and-saucer sets, with rare exceptions identity of a factory or distributor name for non-antique export tablewares is not valuable information. Sometimes it is impossible to know, since factories may come and go after short time in business, or a decorating outfit may buy porcelain blanks from (say) Kyoto or the Arita area. Conversely, a distributor may contract-out decoration of export porcelains to various shops. Such blanks also have been sold in fair numbers in the West for 'crafters' to paint.

"Pattern name" is a Western collector/marketer obsession accompanying 'matched' sets such as tableware. Sameness is not a very compelling idea for artist or craftsman, especially where a major aesthetic (as in Japanese-taste tea wares) is the beauty of whatever happens naturally and more or less randomly during the course of firing and cooling. Your plate decoration includes flowers and pavilions. It is possible that some Western marketer or collector somewhere has made up a name to call items with similar decoration. I do not follow such developments.

Good luck,
Cal

Subject:Re: Re: Re: identify Asian picture
Posted By: David Fri, May 18, 2012

Thank you again Cal for the information, and for taking the time to critique my items. It is most definitely an ongoing learning experience, particularly where Asian arts/ ceramics are concerned! I still have many other Asian collectibles to research; perhaps by the end of it all, I might have actually learned something! Regards, David. P.S. Many more posts to come!

Subject:Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: Stan Tue, May 15, 2012

Is the picture painted or woven? It almost looks like kesi.

Cheers,
Stan

Subject:Re: Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: David Wed, May 16, 2012

Thanx for replying to my post Stan! The picture is woven! David.

Subject:Re: Re: Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: Stan Thu, May 17, 2012

Your pictures are too small to see much. Look to see if they look like the textiles in the pictures at the link below.

Cheers,
Stan

URL Title :Kesi Example


Subject:Re: Re: Re: Re: identify Asian silk screen picture
Posted By: David Fri, May 18, 2012

Thank you Stan for the link! I will try to post a few larger photos of my picture! David.


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