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Subject:Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: David Fri, Nov 22, 2013 IP: 76.28.95.125

Any thoughts on this cloisonné double moon vase? According to the stamp on the bottom, it dates to the reign of the Qianlong emperor, but I'm not sure. The execution is stunning, but there are a few air bubbles. Anyway, I quite like the design; if you look closely, it appears the father dragon is playing ball with his child.

Subject:Re: Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: David Sat, Nov 23, 2013

In case the pics still didn't post, here is a frontal view.

http://postimg.org/image/b38p1ssed/

Subject:Re: Re: Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: David Fri, Nov 29, 2013

Here is a back view.

http://postimg.org/image/czuag8e9r/e22ac529/

Subject:Re: Re: Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: beadiste Sun, Dec 01, 2013

Do you suppose it's a copy of this?





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Subject:Re: Re: Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: David Mon, Dec 02, 2013

Wow, what a great eye you have. This is definitely the same as that vase. Is there anything about my piece superficially that immediately indicates mine is a forgery? Do you think mine still has value?

Subject:Re: Re: Cloisonne Vase of Dragons Playing Ball--Age?
Posted By: beadiste Tue, Dec 03, 2013

I'm not sure I would call it a forgery - the design is Qing, even if the actual piece may not be. The execution of the copy is quite neat and attractive. This could be an example of a wringing more juice out of an interesting old design rather than intended to deceive. Someone more expert than I could perhaps discern if it was made in the 1920s or more recently.

I once had the experience of visiting a Taiwan ceramic factory where the artists were hired from among the best draughtspeople in the schools, and who were determinedly copying old designs just to make sure their skills were up to speed.

Perhaps it should have been marketed as "inspired by" or "modern artistry in the style of."
But sometimes such nice distinctions conveniently evade translation...


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