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I have two matching chargers that are the same pattern as one seen in a museum picture. The dimensions are:
16 1/4" x 16 1/4" x 3 1/4" h

Does anyone know if these are copies and what the value is?

Thank you in advance for your help.


Steve
p.s. I included the museum picture

Hi Steve,

I know nothing about rocks and metals so can't tell you if they are 10 or 100 years old but this (see picture and the arangement of the claws) is an easy clue to tell it isn't Ming.

Regards,

Arjan

eBay seems to be positively stuffed with repros of published Ming pieces. My impression is that the Chinese cloisonne workshops aren't picky about hiring people who can actually draw. Even artists who can draw very precisely and thus be likely to be excellent forgers can't seem to resist putting their own spin on a design. But craftspeople hired to do work just cannot, cannot, competently copy a design. As to your plates, the difference between the rather fierce Ming dragons and the cartoony copies just screams at me. Am not trying to be snooty or anything like that, just honest.

9 years ago, opinions varied.

http://asianart.com/phpforum/index.php?method=detailAll&Id=10725

Thanks beadiste. Now you mentioned the difference. It seems obvious now. I guess we have to spend time enjoy the beauty or funkiness and then it may give us clues:) -George

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