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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: Tim Mon, Dec 29, 2014 IP: 76.110.209.69 Season Greetings, friends! |
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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: rat Tue, Dec 30, 2014 oy, these need a bit more research than a free website will justify unless someone else can read the artist and place names/seals readily. Agree that your fan painting is typical Shanghai school, dated (likely September) 1888. The landscape is dated autumn, either 1860 or 1920, not enough information to be sure which at the moment. |
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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: Tim Wed, Dec 31, 2014 Thank you, Rat! |
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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: rat Thu, Jan 01, 2015 I think the landscape picture will be easier actually: the artist's surname is clearly Wang 王 but my cursive skills aren't good enough to decipher the given name or the place name that precedes the surname; the seal impressions are quite clear but I'm not getting which characters they are despite the elements I can identify. Go through Shuowen or a zhuanshu dictionary to find what their kaishu forms are and then look them up in an index of alternative artists' names and you may get a hit. |
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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: Tim Fri, Jan 02, 2015 I took both paintings out of their frames. |
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Subject:2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: rat Sat, Jan 03, 2015 the new fan painting is signed as by Wang Ye, a Republic-era painter, primarily of bird/flower themes. You have the cyclical year correct, but it is probably 1951, though I can't say if the picture is genuine. |
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Subject:Re: 2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: Mikeoz Sat, Jan 03, 2015 Hi Rat, |
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Subject:Re: 2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: rat Mon, Jan 05, 2015 Thanks so much for this clarification Mikeoz, you've cracked the code... I would not have guessed the right side of "chi" and was confused by the bottom half of "e". Wang Yanzhou 王延周 used the pen name 鹅池, and initially went by 州元, which is how he is signed here. Supposedly he worked during the Qianlong reign and into the Jiaqing reign. However the only other example of his work I find online was a similar fan of buildings in landscape auctioned by Poly that has rather different looking calligraphy, so it's not clear this one (or that one) is a genuine example by Wang,though this looks reasonable to me and if genuine should be 1800. |
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Subject:Re: 2 Chinese fan paintings - Artist/Translation help please!
Posted By: Tim Tue, Jan 06, 2015 Wow! Absolutely blown away....many thanks to Rat and Mikeoz. |
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Subject:found it!
Posted By: Tim Tue, Jan 06, 2015 Tried a few more times looking for the auciton listing...finally came up. |
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Subject:found it!
Posted By: rat Wed, Jan 07, 2015 Here's the link if others want to see: |
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